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“For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours”

Jeff Ostrowski · November 6, 2013

215 ICEL Roman ONSIGNOR Schuler was a smart man who taught in the seminary for years. He’s seldom wrong, but having read his 1993 Editorial, I felt he was in error. If you read Number 6 of the petition he mentions, the following claim is made:

In the proposed ICEL Sacramentary [which would ultimately be rejected in 1998], the text of the Our Father has been changed, and the following phrase added: “For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours now and forever.”

I thought to myself, “What’s he talking about?” As far as I can remember, those words have always been in the Novus Ordo Missae. Click here and you’ll see these words were part of the official 1975 Missale Romanum.

WITH MY CURIOSITY PIQUED, I opened up a 1970s copy of the Missal, and neither the Latin nor English words were there. “This can’t be right,” I said again. So, I looked in another edition from 1970, and once again both the Latin and English were missing. Perhaps Msgr. Schuler was correct after all? Oops! I realized that somebody had “cut and pasted” different versions of the 1970 Ordo Missae into a 1965 Missal, so I kept looking in different spots and eventually found those words in English. (Remember: the 1965 Missal does not have those words.)

So … I need to ask again:   Why do Msgr. Schuler and CREDO make that claim? Is it possible that ICEL had relocated that doxology in an earlier draft, placing it directly at the end of the Lord’s Prayer? Schuler and CREDO are correct in the second part of their statement:

Other modifications are proposed for the Our Father. “Lead us not into temptation” becomes “save us from the time of trial” and “trespasses” becomes “sins.”

You can verify this by viewing page 665 of the following document, uploaded by Richard J. Clark:

      * *  1998 Sacramentary (Rejected)

By the way, I see the Rejected 1998 Sacramentary tried to eliminate the last vestiges of “Thy”:

Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
your kingdom come, your will be done,
on earth as it is in Heaven.

If you glance through that Rejected Sacramentary, you’ll see that Richard’s analysis was correct. Some supremely goofy stuff can be found in it, and perhaps that’s why, shortly thereafter, Rome hit the “reboot” button on ICEL …

[By the way, some people used to criticize ICEL’s version: “All glory and honor is yours, etc.” But it’s been a while since I last heard that criticism.]

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: 1998 Rejected Sacramentary, Roman Missal Third Edition Last Updated: January 1, 2020

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Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 21 September 2025) discusses some theological items—supported by certain verses in ancient Catholic hymns—and ends by explaining why certain folks become delirious with jealousy when they observe feats by Monsignor Ronald Knox.
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Quick Thoughts

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    We were sent an internet statement (screenshot) that’s garnered significant attention, in which KARL KEATING (founder of Catholic Answers) speaks about whether canonizations are infallible. Mr. Keating seems unaware that canonizations are—in the final analysis—a theological opinion. They are not infallible, as explained in this 2014 article by a priest (with a doctorate in theology) who worked for multiple popes. Mr. Keating says: “I’m unaware of such claims arising from any quarter until several recent popes disliked by these Traditionalists were canonized, including John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul II. Usually Paul VI receives the most opprobrium.” Mr. Keating is incorrect; e.g. Father John Vianney, several centuries ago, taught clearly that canonizations are not infallible. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen would be another example, although clearly much more recent than Saint John Vianney.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Vatican II Changed Wedding Propers?
    It’s often claimed that the wedding propers were changed after Vatican II. As a matter of fact, that is a false claim. The EDITIO VATICANA propers (Introit: Deus Israel) remained the same after Vatican II. However, a new set of propers (Introit: Ecce Deus) was provided for optional use. The same holds true for the feast of Pope Saint Gregory the Great on 3 September: the 1943 propers (Introit: Si díligis me) were provided for optional use, but the traditional PROPRIA MISSAE (Introit: Sacerdótes Dei) were retained; they weren’t gotten rid of. The Ordo Cantus Missae (1970) makes this crystal clear, as does the Missal itself. There was an effort made in the post-conciliar years to eliminate so-called “Neo-Gregorian” chants, but (contrary to popular belief) most were retained: cf. the feast of Christ the King, the feast of the Immaculate Conception, and so forth.
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    Solemn “Salve Regina” (Chant)
    How many “S” words can you think of using alliteration? How about Schwann Solemn Salve Score? You can download the SOLEMN SALVE REGINA in Gregorian Chant. The notation follows the official rhythm (EDITIO VATICANA). Canon Jules Van Nuffel, choirmaster of the Cathedral of Saint Rumbold, composed this accompaniment for it (although some feel it isn’t his best work).
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“In condemning us, you condemn all your own ancestors—all the ancient priests, bishops and kings—all that was once the glory of England, the island of saints and the most devoted child of the See of Peter. For what have we taught, however you may qualify it with the odious name of treason, that they did not uniformly teach?”

— Father Edmund Campion (to the Anglicans about to murder him)

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