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Views from the Choir Loft

A Word On The Pope’s Interview …

Jeff Ostrowski · October 2, 2013

During the course of one of his interviews, Pope Francis said:

HEN THERE ARE particular issues, like the liturgy according to the Vetus Ordo. I think the decision of Pope Benedict was prudent and motivated by the desire to help people who have this sensitivity. What is worrying, though, is the risk of the ideologization of the Vetus Ordo, its exploitation.

Some have admitted to being confused by the word “exploitation,” which is understandable when we consider the important role played by the Vetus Ordo in the spiritual lives of so many great saints. I have my own ideas about what Pope Francis meant in the paragraph. (He was speaking “off the cuff,” by the way.) However, I will not speculate, because I am adamantly opposed to the rampant and unrestrained bloviation by unqualified people that seems to be so much in vogue these days. I don’t wish to add to such irresponsible bloviation.

Speaking of “exploitation,” here’s a quote by Fr. Godfrey Diekmann:

E COULD CITE no papal encouragement for the view that liturgy is “the life of the Church,” the normal “school of piety,” apart from St. Pius X’s declaration that “the first and indispensable source of the true Christian spirit is active and intelligent participation in the public worship of the Church” (Motu Proprio on Sacred Music). And how we clung to that statement, cited it times without number, and tried to “exploit” it in terms of its pastoral implications!
—Martin Hellriegel and Godfrey Diekmann, “Perspectives on
American Liturgical Renewal,” Aids in Ministry (AIM), 1979


I don’t want to nitpick, but I do wonder if Diekmann got the translation right. What Pope Pius X actually said was:

ILLED AS WE ARE with a most ardent desire to see the true Christian spirit flourish in every respect and be preserved by all the faithful, We deem it necessary to provide before anything else for the sanctity and dignity of the temple, in which the faithful assemble for no other object than that of acquiring this spirit from its foremost and indispensable font, which is the active participation in the most holy mysteries and in the public and solemn prayer of the Church.   [source]

Diekmann wrote: “the first and indispensable source of the true Christian spirit is active and intelligent participation in the public worship of the Church.” Is that fully correct? For instance, where does he get the word “intelligent”? Perhaps someone can look at the original language of the Motu Proprio and clue me in … By the way, look at this 1937 advertisement for Orate Fratres.

AN OLD MAXIM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH says: Lex orandi, lex credendi, which means “The law of prayer is the law of belief.” Another way to think of this would be, “We pray as we believe,” or even, “We believe as we pray.”

Fr. Godfrey Diekmann was highly influential in the reforms following the Second Vatican Council. In particular, he was a major supporter of the “Hootenanny Mass.” Fr. Diekmann held many beliefs contrary to Catholic teaching. For example, he was a supporter of women’s ordination to the priesthood. Bearing in mind Lex orandi, lex credendi, what effects did these beliefs of his have on the liturgical reforms? It’s an interesting and important question.

By the way, I have to admit being disturbed after reading this story, wherein Fr. Diekmann is unable to hide his true feelings toward Pope John Paul II. I suppose it’s not all that surprising, since Pope John Paul II was firm in stating that women cannot be ordained as Catholic priests.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: Father Godfrey Diekmann, Godfrey Diekmann Heretic Last Updated: June 3, 2024

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Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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President’s Corner

    ‘Bogey’ of the Half-Educated: Paraphrase
    Father Adrian Porter, using the cracher dans la soupe example, did a praiseworthy job explaining the difference between ‘dynamic’ and ‘formal’ translation. This is something Monsignor Ronald Knox explained time and again—yet even now certain parties feign ignorance. I suppose there will always be people who pretend the only ‘valid’ translation of Mitigásti omnem iram tuam; avertísti ab ira indignatiónis tuæ… would be “You mitigated all ire of you; you have averted from your indignation’s ire.” Those who would defend such a translation suffer from an unfortunate malady. One of my professors called it “cognate on the brain.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Father Cuthbert Lattey • “The Hebrew MSS”
    Father Cuthbert Lattey (d. 1954) wrote: “In a large number of cases the ancient Christian versions and some other ancient sources seem to have been based upon a better Hebrew text than that adopted by the rabbis for official use and alone suffered to survive. Sometimes, too, the cognate languages suggest a suitable meaning for which there is little or no support in the comparatively small amount of ancient Hebrew that has survived. The evidence of the metre is also at times so clear as of itself to furnish a strong argument; often it is confirmed by some other considerations. […] The Jewish copyists and their directors, however, seem to have lost the tradition of the metre at an early date, and the meticulous care of the rabbis in preserving their own official and traditional text (the ‘massoretic’ text) came too late, when the mischief had already been done.” • Msgr. Knox adds: “It seems the safest principle to follow the Latin—after all, St. Jerome will sometimes have had a better text than the Massoretes—except on the rare occasions when there is no sense to be extracted from the Vulgate at all.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Music List” • 9 Nov. (Dedic. Lateran)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 9 November 2025, which is the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica. If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the sensational feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
    On a daily basis, I speak to people who don’t realize we publish a free newsletter (although they’ve followed our blog for years). We have no endowment, no major donors, no savings, and refuse to run annoying ads. As a result, our mailing list is crucial to our survival. Signing up couldn’t be easier: simply scroll to the bottom of any blog article and enter your email address.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

“It will not be Rome to tell you what you should do, no: because you have the charism. …you have the Holy Spirit for this. If Rome were to begin to make the decisions it would be a blow to the Holy Spirit, who works in the particular Churches.”

— Pope Francis (27 March 2023)

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