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A Couple of Recent Podcast Appearances

Dr. Charles Weaver · May 4, 2024

T HAS BEEN an exceptionally busy semester of teaching for me. I took on a few extra music history classes while a colleague is on maternity leave. It brings me such joy to teach this subject, especially because these classes have mostly dealt with sixteenth- and seventeenth-century music, and most of my students have had very little exposure to such things. There’s nothing quite like introducing Monteverdi’s music to a bunch of college freshmen who have never heard it before.

It also means that my writing here, never very frequent in any case, has slowed to a trickle while I tend to my teaching duties. There is so much I would like to write about, and I haven’t found the time. Today, however, I would like to at least draw our readers’ attention to a couple of recent podcasts I have appeared on.

The first is a conversation I had with Mark Emerson Donnelly. There is a kind of interesting story about how I met Mark. I was in Vancouver, BC one summer about a decade ago to teach at a summer course put on by the Lute Society of America. Since we had arrived on the weekend, I was there on a Sunday, and I, naturally, made my way to the local FSSP apostolate to hear Mass. During the Mass, I sang along on the congregational ordinary well enough that someone near me insisted on introducing me to the choirmaster, who happened to be Mark. We instantly hit it off, and I even ended up attending their choir rehearsal that week, while he and his family came to a guitar recital that I gave at the workshop. We’ve been in touch off and on in the years since. He’s a very good and enthusiastic teacher of Gregorian chant in the Solesmes style, and he’s done a lot of work with the monks of Clear Creek and is also affiliated with the ongoing Laus in Ecclesia series of textbooks. He has recently started a Youtube series about chant, which you can find here. If you are interested in some practical tips about incorporating that style of singing into your parish choir, you might enjoy his content. I had a conversation with Mark recently on his channel, and he is releasing the conversation in multiple parts. Parts 1 and 2 are already up.

The other podcast I was on recently is Dr. Jennifer Donelson-Nowicka’s Square Notes. I’m sure our listeners will be familiar with this show, now in its sixth season. The show has featured some really interesting interviews; perhaps my favorite is the episode about Mary Berry from last season. I’ve actually been on the show five times now. My most recent appearance is here. The topic is how one might integrate the scholarly study of chant with the spiritual and liturgical life of a Church musician. One thing I discuss there is why one ought to learn as much as one can about how the editions we sing from come about. This is also leading up to a class I’m teaching this summer at the Catholic Institute of Sacred Music. Perhaps you sing from the Vatican Edition, or from the Liber, or from the Graduale Triplex or the Graduale Novum. It’s always worthwhile learning more about how those things came to be and why they differ from each other.

After this podcast came out, I got some interesting pushback from a student for saying, in the course of this conversation, that one really ought to sing the propers in a schola every week in order to be able to study chant well as a scholarly subject. That seems like a topic for another post, when I have more time to think about it, but I have a few initial thoughts. The issue is somewhat related to the distinction of emic versus etic perspectives in anthropology and related fields. My student’s is a good one, because, as he said, presumably I as a music theory teacher don’t feel that I need to be able to play a Beethoven concerto in order to teach about it at school. This has led me to ask myself, why do I feel differently about chant? Can I clarify my thinking?

It goes without saying thaat someone ought to be able to lecture or teach or write about chant, but isn’t there something true about the idea that one has to actually live with and in the liturgy in order to be able to do an excellent job teaching about the chant or describing it? Is it perhaps, that chant is a sacramental? That much of what makes it special and gives it its particular power is not able to be abstracted and removed from its proper context in the prayer life of the singer, at least not without depriving it of something essential?

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Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: Carmen Gregorianum, Gregorian Chant Last Updated: May 4, 2024

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About Dr. Charles Weaver

Dr. Charles Weaver is on the faculty of the Juilliard School, and serves as director of music for St. Mary’s Church. He lives in Connecticut with his wife and four children.—(Read full biography).

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    PDF • “Music List” (4th Sunday of Advent)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 21 December 2025, which is the 4th Sunday of Advent (Year A). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. The ENTRANCE CHANT is the famous “Roráte Coeli” and the fauxbourdon setting of the COMMUNION is exquisite. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are available at the feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    PDF • Our Lady of Guadalupe (12 Dec.)
    The Responsorial Psalm may be downloaded as a PDF file (organist & vocalist) for 12 December, which is the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe. When it comes to the formulary for this Mass, it’s astounding how infrequently it’s included in official books. Prior to Vatican II, one had to search through “supplemental material” printed in the back of hand-missals and graduals. But since 1970, the feast is virtually nonexistent. According to the UNIVERSAL KALENDAR, 12 December is the “Feast of Saint Jane Frances De Chantal, Religious” (Die 12 decembris: S. Ioannæ Franciscæ de Chantal, religiosæ). Why should that feast overpower Our Lady of Guadalupe? In the United States, OLG is celebrated—and I’d assume in Mexico, Central America, South America, and Canada—but, as I said, the Propria Missae are virtually impossible to locate. I possess only three books which mention this feast.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Simplified Accompaniment (Advent Hymn)
    Many organists are forced to simultaneously serve as both CANTOR and ACCOMPANIST. In spite of what some claim, this can be difficult. I invite you to download this simplified organ accompaniment (PDF) which in the Father Brébeuf Hymnal is hymn #661: “Come, Thou Long-Expected Jesus” (for ADVENT). I’m toying with the idea of creating a whole bunch of these, to help amateur organists. The last one I uploaded was downloaded more than 2,900 times in a matter of hours—so there appears to be interest.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    PDF Download • “Santo Santo Santo”
    Those searching for a dignified, brief, simple, bright setting of SANCTUS in Spanish (“Santo Santo Santo”) are invited to download this Setting in honor of Saint John Brébeuf (organist & vocalist). I wonder if there would be any interest in me recording a rehearsal video for this piece.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Pope Leo XIV on Sacred Music
    On 5 December 2025, Pope Leo XIV made this declaration with regard to liturgical music.
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    “Translations Approved for Liturgical Use”
    According to the newsletter for USSCB’s Committee on Divine Worship dated September 1996, there are three (3) translations of the Bible which can be used in the sacred liturgy in the United States. You can read this information with your own eyes. It seems the USCCB and also Rome fully approved the so-called NRSV (“New Revised Standard Version”) on 13 November 1991 and 6 April 1992 but this permission was then withdrawn in 1994.
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“We must strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren—that is, for the Protestants.”

— Monsignor Annibale Bugnini (March, 1965) in L’Osservatore Romano

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