• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

Pope Saint Paul VI (3 April 1969): “Although the text of the Roman Gradual—at least that which concerns the singing—has not been changed, the Entrance antiphons and Communions antiphons have been revised for Masses without singing.”

  • Donate
  • Our Team
    • Our Editorial Policy
    • Who We Are
    • How To Contact Us
    • Sainte Marie Bulletin Articles
    • Jeff’s Mom Joins Fundraiser
  • Pew Resources
    • Brébeuf Catholic Hymnal
    • Jogues Illuminated Missal
    • Repository • “Spanish Music”
    • KYRIALE • Saint Antoine Daniel
    • Campion Missal, 3rd Edition
  • MUSICAL WEBSITES
    • René Goupil Gregorian Chant
    • Noël Chabanel Psalms
    • Nova Organi Harmonia (2,279 pages)
    • Roman Missal, 3rd Edition
    • Catechism of Gregorian Rhythm
    • Father Enemond Massé Manuscripts
    • Lalemant Polyphonic
    • Feasts Website
  • Miscellaneous
    • Site Map
    • Secrets of the Conscientious Choirmaster
    • “Wedding March” for lazy organists
    • Emporium Kevin Allen
    • Saint Jean de Lalande Library
    • Sacred Music Symposium 2023
    • The Eight Gregorian Modes
    • Gradual by Pothier’s Protégé
    • Seven (7) Considerations
Views from the Choir Loft

Folk Mass Clip • Priest Facing “Ad Orientem”

Jeff Ostrowski · January 23, 2023

HERE WAS ONCE a priest who shrieked at me that the sine qua non of the Catholic Mass must be participation. He said the congregation must participate in absolutely everything. I was very young—and rather audacious and imprudent—so I immediately asked whether he would be printing out his homily, so the congregation could recite it along with him. The priest replied: “No, Jeff, the people participate in the sermon by listening to it.” Then he got really angry (because it dawned on him what he’d just admitted).

Did It Really? • Some claim the post-conciliar Mass gave “participation” back to the congregation. But did it really? For example, let’s assume 600 people are in the congregation. We are told that having a lay person—not the priest—proclaim the reading means the congregation is participating. Yet, just one person reads while the other 599 people sit and listen. Do you see my point? Instead of saying Vatican II gave participation “back to the people,” they should really say that Vatican II gave participation to one 600th of the people!

Amy Welborn • A former student [E.K.] kindly alerted me to a remarkable video posted by Amy Welborn, showing a priest facing ad orientem during a “Folk Mass” (1968):

Nobody Singing • I don’t see any members of the congregation singing in that video. Indeed, I could easily give you a whole list of post-conciliar parishes where absolutely nobody sings. In one parish, the “progressive” music director has been there since before I was born—so it’s not as if the people haven’t had an opportunity to learn the music! (Indeed, this particular director hasn’t changed the music in 30+ years.) My entire career is based upon one idea: Catholics don’t sing goofy music, but they will sing dignified music. If I had time, I would tell the story of my struggle to introduce traditional music into an Ordinary Form parish. It took some ‘fighting’—but after a while the people embraced it, and I have never heard such congregational singing.

Banish The Nonsense! • Currently, the best collection of congregational songs (for both forms of the Roman Rite) is found in the Brébeuf Catholic Hymnal. One of the main authors for the Church Music Association of America Blog declared (6/10/2022) that the Brébeuf Hymnal “has no parallel and not even any close competitor.” Check out the newest tool:

*  Brébeuf Portal • A New Tool

Search for terms like “Epiphany” or “Advent.” The tool was built by Mr. James Doherty, and is currently in development.

Video Description: In the Convent of Our Lady of Sion, Bellinter House, County Meath, Mass is being celebrated in a different way. Mass is held in a convent lecture hall and the ceremony sees guitars, tin whistle and mandolin replace the church organ and hymns in Latin. The Mass has been organised by Worship ’68, an organisation for Catholic lay people and priests. Popular folk band The Weavers perform ‘Shout from the Highest Mountain’. The chief celebrant is Reverend Roman O’Flanagan, OFM (Order of Friars Minor). The Second Vatican Council (1962 – 1965) brought wide-ranging reforms to the Catholic Church. One new aspect was the use of contemporary Catholic liturgical music at Mass (???), which was now celebrated in the vernacular, instead of in Latin. The aim behind this was to facilitate active participation of the entire congregation in the Mass, in music and song. Styles varied around the world, but a folk-based genre became popular in Ireland and other English speaking countries. These became known as ‘Folk Masses’ or ‘Mass with Folk music’. A Palladian style Georgian house, Bellinter House was designed by Richard Castle and constructed circa 1750. Home to the Preston family for almost two hundred years, the house and estate was bought by an English farmer, William Holdsworth in 1854. In 1966 it was acquired by the Land Commission. The Sisters of Sion, a French religious order, were based in Bellinter House from 1966. As well as a convent, they restored the house and developed it as an adult education, conference and retreat centre. In 2003 it was sold and opened as a hotel. ‘Seven Days’ began broadcasting on 26 September 1966 and was RTÉ television’s flagship current affairs programme for ten years. The programme’s young production team was made up of producer Lelia Doolan, directors Eoghan Harris and Dick Hill, and reporters John O’Donoghue, Brian Cleeve and Brian Farrell. Muiris Mac Conghail became producer of ‘Seven Days’ in 1967 when the programme was merged with another current affairs programme, ‘Division’. This episode of ‘Seven Days’ was broadcast on 6 December 1968. The reporter is John O’Donoghue.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: 1968 Folk Mass, Ad Orientem, Hootenanny Mass Last Updated: April 8, 2025

Subscribe

It greatly helps us if you subscribe to our mailing list!

* indicates required

About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

Primary Sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

President’s Corner

    New Bulletin Article • “21 September 2025”
    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 21 September 2025) discusses some theological items—supported by certain verses in ancient Catholic hymns—and ends by explaining why certain folks become delirious with jealousy when they observe feats by Monsignor Ronald Knox.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!
    It’s always amusing to see old diocesan newspapers—in huge capital letters—advertising the Cheapest Catholic Paper in the United States. The correspondent who sent this to me added: “I can think of certain composers, published by large companies in our own day, who could truthfully brag about the most tawdry compositions in the world!” I wonder what she could have meant by such a cryptic comment…
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    PDF Download • Dom Murray Harmonies
    Along with so many others, I have deep respect for Dom Gregory Gregory Murray, who produced this clever harmonization (PDF) of “O SANCTISSIMA.” It’s always amazed me that Dom Gregory—a truly inspired composer—was so confused when it came to GREGORIAN CHANT. Throughout his life, he published contradictory statements, veering back-and-forth like a weather vane. Toward the end of his life, he declared: “I see clearly that the need for reform in liturgical music arose, not in the 18th and 19th centuries, but a thousand years earlier—in the 8th and 9th centuries, or even before that. The abuses began, not with Mozart and Haydn, but with those over-enthusiastic medieval musicians who developed the elaborate and flamboyant Gregorian Chant.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Karl Keating • “Canonization Questions”
    We were sent an internet statement (screenshot) that’s garnered significant attention, in which KARL KEATING (founder of Catholic Answers) speaks about whether canonizations are infallible. Mr. Keating seems unaware that canonizations are—in the final analysis—a theological opinion. They are not infallible, as explained in this 2014 article by a priest (with a doctorate in theology) who worked for multiple popes. Mr. Keating says: “I’m unaware of such claims arising from any quarter until several recent popes disliked by these Traditionalists were canonized, including John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul II. Usually Paul VI receives the most opprobrium.” Mr. Keating is incorrect; e.g. Father John Vianney, several centuries ago, taught clearly that canonizations are not infallible. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen would be another example, although clearly much more recent than Saint John Vianney.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Vatican II Changed Wedding Propers?
    It’s often claimed that the wedding propers were changed after Vatican II. As a matter of fact, that is a false claim. The EDITIO VATICANA propers (Introit: Deus Israel) remained the same after Vatican II. However, a new set of propers (Introit: Ecce Deus) was provided for optional use. The same holds true for the feast of Pope Saint Gregory the Great on 3 September: the 1943 propers (Introit: Si díligis me) were provided for optional use, but the traditional PROPRIA MISSAE (Introit: Sacerdótes Dei) were retained; they weren’t gotten rid of. The Ordo Cantus Missae (1970) makes this crystal clear, as does the Missal itself. There was an effort made in the post-conciliar years to eliminate so-called “Neo-Gregorian” chants, but (contrary to popular belief) most were retained: cf. the feast of Christ the King, the feast of the Immaculate Conception, and so forth.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Solemn “Salve Regina” (Chant)
    How many “S” words can you think of using alliteration? How about Schwann Solemn Salve Score? You can download the SOLEMN SALVE REGINA in Gregorian Chant. The notation follows the official rhythm (EDITIO VATICANA). Canon Jules Van Nuffel, choirmaster of the Cathedral of Saint Rumbold, composed this accompaniment for it (although some feel it isn’t his best work).
    —Corpus Christi Watershed

Random Quote

“A much greater source of anxiety to Us is the style of action of those who maintain that liturgical worship should shed its sacred character, who foolishly say we should substitute for sacred items & furnishings ordinary common things in daily use.”

— Pope Saint Paul VI (14 Oct 1968)

Recent Posts

  • New Bulletin Article • “21 September 2025”
  • How do you pronounce this word in Latin?
  • Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!
  • Children’s Repertoire: “3 Recommendations”
  • PDF Download • Dom Murray Harmonies

Subscribe

Subscribe

* indicates required

Copyright © 2025 Corpus Christi Watershed · Isaac Jogues on Genesis Framework · WordPress · Log in

Corpus Christi Watershed is a 501(c)3 public charity dedicated to exploring and embodying as our calling the relationship of religion, culture, and the arts. This non-profit organization employs the creative media in service of theology, the Church, and Christian culture for the enrichment and enjoyment of the public.