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Views from the Choir Loft

“Part 3 of 3” • Guerrero Kyrie for Our Lady

Jeff Ostrowski · August 13, 2021

HE PROJECT IS COMPLETE! Choirmasters find themselves in need of a brief yet powerful KYRIE ELEISON for their volunteer choirs—and there’s no better choice than Father Guerrero’s De Beata Virgine II (1582AD). It’s a gorgeous composition—but that’s not all. For instance, consider its third section (below). A choir director can explain how the thema comes directly from the plainsong, then describe how Guerrero’s counter-melody is “like a mirror-image” of the thema, and is picked up by the various voices. The choirmaster can also show how each voice has “balance”—in the sense that voices beginning with long values will be reversed later on (and vice-versa).

For all three movements: click here.

Here’s the third (and final) movement:

*  PDF Download • SECTION 3 of 3
—Father Guerrero’s “Missa De Beata Virgine II”
—Edition: Roma 1582AD.

Rehearsal videos for each individual voice await you at #59773.

More Interesting Things: Choirmasters who teach this piece can point out the “connection points.” What are connection points? One would be the Soprano, which gives the Alto its note in measure 1, then “connects” again in measure 4. The same thing (between the same voices) happens in measure 7 and measure 11. Another connection point would measure 11 and measure 14 between Tenor and Bass. And there are tons more! In measures 8-9 there is a tiny little “baby stretto” between Alto and Tenor; and the same thing happens between Bass and Alto in measures 11-12. In measure 5 and measure 12, the Alto voices gives their note to the Soprano voices (an octave higher). These are just a few examples you can share with your choir.

What Is A Trope? During the Middle Ages, most of the Mass prayers were troped. As Father Friel reminds us, Sequences were tropes. The Kyrie was troped. The Gloria was troped. The Agnus Dei was troped. Even the readings were troped. The Kyrie which Father Guerrero uses (see above) is called “Kyrie Cum Jubilo.” In the Editio Vaticana, it’s called KYRIE IX. If you don’t know what a Trope is, please scroll to the bottom of this article:

*  Article • “Reform of the Reform” • Eight Lies We Were Told

No More Tropes: On 20 July 1562, during the 22nd Session of the Council of Trent, a commission of seven prelates was appointed to examine the question of liturgical abuses. Among the Postulata nonnullorum patrum circa varios abusus in missis subinductos—(“Petitions by certain Fathers about various abuses introduced into Mass”)—one finds the following: “Let those additions Mariam gubernans, Mariam coronans be removed from the hymn Glória in excélsis; they seem an unbefitting insertion” (source). On 7 January 1575, Father Guerrero’s chapter in Sevilla decreed that henceforth the Roman rite, as reformed by the Council of Trent, is to be used exclusively. This decree rendered obsolete such “troped” Masses as Guerrero’s De beata Virgine (1566) as well as polytextual Masses, such as his Beata Mater (1566). [But those who have attended the Sacred Music Symposium know that the texts can be altered so these Masses can still be used.]

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Filed Under: Articles, PDF Download Tagged With: Missa De Beata Virgine II, Piecemeal Polyphony Last Updated: February 26, 2022

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Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    PDF Download • Dom Murray Harmonies
    Along with so many others, I have deep respect for Dom Gregory Gregory Murray, who produced this clever harmonization (PDF) of “O SANCTISSIMA.” It’s always amazed me that Dom Gregory—a truly inspired composer—was so confused when it came to GREGORIAN CHANT. Throughout his life, he published contradictory statements, veering back-and-forth like a weather vane. Toward the end of his life, he declared: “I see clearly that the need for reform in liturgical music arose, not in the 18th and 19th centuries, but a thousand years earlier—in the 8th and 9th centuries, or even before that. The abuses began, not with Mozart and Haydn, but with those over-enthusiastic medieval musicians who developed the elaborate and flamboyant Gregorian Chant.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Music List” • 14 September (Holy Cross)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I prepared for 14 September 2025, which is the Feast of Exaltation of the Holy Cross. If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the spectacular feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    New Bulletin Article • “14 September 2025”
    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 14 September 2025) discusses OFFERTORY ANTIPHONS and contains a wonderful quote by Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Karl Keating • “Canonization Questions”
    We were sent an internet statement (screenshot) that’s garnered significant attention, in which KARL KEATING (founder of Catholic Answers) speaks about whether canonizations are infallible. Mr. Keating seems unaware that canonizations are—in the final analysis—a theological opinion. They are not infallible, as explained in this 2014 article by a priest (with a doctorate in theology) who worked for multiple popes. Mr. Keating says: “I’m unaware of such claims arising from any quarter until several recent popes disliked by these Traditionalists were canonized, including John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul II. Usually Paul VI receives the most opprobrium.” Mr. Keating is incorrect; e.g. Father John Vianney, several centuries ago, taught clearly that canonizations are not infallible. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen would be another example, although clearly much more recent than Saint John Vianney.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Vatican II Changed Wedding Propers?
    It’s often claimed that the wedding propers were changed after Vatican II. As a matter of fact, that is a false claim. The EDITIO VATICANA propers (Introit: Deus Israel) remained the same after Vatican II. However, a new set of propers (Introit: Ecce Deus) was provided for optional use. The same holds true for the feast of Pope Saint Gregory the Great on 3 September: the 1943 propers (Introit: Si díligis me) were provided for optional use, but the traditional PROPRIA MISSAE (Introit: Sacerdótes Dei) were retained; they weren’t gotten rid of. The Ordo Cantus Missae (1970) makes this crystal clear, as does the Missal itself. There was an effort made in the post-conciliar years to eliminate so-called “Neo-Gregorian” chants, but (contrary to popular belief) most were retained: cf. the feast of Christ the King, the feast of the Immaculate Conception, and so forth.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Solemn “Salve Regina” (Chant)
    How many “S” words can you think of using alliteration? How about Schwann Solemn Salve Score? You can download the SOLEMN SALVE REGINA in Gregorian Chant. The notation follows the official rhythm (EDITIO VATICANA). Canon Jules Van Nuffel, choirmaster of the Cathedral of Saint Rumbold, composed this accompaniment for it (although some feel it isn’t his best work).
    —Corpus Christi Watershed

Random Quote

If the homily goes on too long, it will affect two characteristic elements of the liturgical celebration: its balance and its rhythm. The words of the preacher must be measured, so that the Lord, more than his minister, will be the center of attention.

— Pope Francis (11/24/2013)

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