• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

Pope Saint Paul VI (3 April 1969): “Although the text of the Roman Gradual—at least that which concerns the singing—has not been changed, the Entrance antiphons and Communions antiphons have been revised for Masses without singing.”

  • Donate
  • Our Team
    • Our Editorial Policy
    • Who We Are
    • How To Contact Us
    • Sainte Marie Bulletin Articles
    • Jeff’s Mom Joins Fundraiser
  • Pew Resources
    • Brébeuf Catholic Hymnal
    • Jogues Illuminated Missal
    • Repository • “Spanish Music”
    • KYRIALE • Saint Antoine Daniel
    • Campion Missal, 3rd Edition
  • MUSICAL WEBSITES
    • René Goupil Gregorian Chant
    • Noël Chabanel Psalms
    • Nova Organi Harmonia (2,279 pages)
    • Roman Missal, 3rd Edition
    • Catechism of Gregorian Rhythm
    • Father Enemond Massé Manuscripts
    • Lalemant Polyphonic
    • Feasts Website
  • Miscellaneous
    • Site Map
    • Secrets of the Conscientious Choirmaster
    • “Wedding March” for lazy organists
    • Emporium Kevin Allen
    • Saint Jean de Lalande Library
    • Sacred Music Symposium 2023
    • The Eight Gregorian Modes
    • Gradual by Pothier’s Protégé
    • Seven (7) Considerations
Views from the Choir Loft

“Part 3 of 3” • Guerrero Kyrie for Our Lady

Jeff Ostrowski · August 13, 2021

HE PROJECT IS COMPLETE! Choirmasters find themselves in need of a brief yet powerful KYRIE ELEISON for their volunteer choirs—and there’s no better choice than Father Guerrero’s De Beata Virgine II (1582AD). It’s a gorgeous composition—but that’s not all. For instance, consider its third section (below). A choir director can explain how the thema comes directly from the plainsong, then describe how Guerrero’s counter-melody is “like a mirror-image” of the thema, and is picked up by the various voices. The choirmaster can also show how each voice has “balance”—in the sense that voices beginning with long values will be reversed later on (and vice-versa).

For all three movements: click here.

Here’s the third (and final) movement:

*  PDF Download • SECTION 3 of 3
—Father Guerrero’s “Missa De Beata Virgine II”
—Edition: Roma 1582AD.

Rehearsal videos for each individual voice await you at #59773.

More Interesting Things: Choirmasters who teach this piece can point out the “connection points.” What are connection points? One would be the Soprano, which gives the Alto its note in measure 1, then “connects” again in measure 4. The same thing (between the same voices) happens in measure 7 and measure 11. Another connection point would measure 11 and measure 14 between Tenor and Bass. And there are tons more! In measures 8-9 there is a tiny little “baby stretto” between Alto and Tenor; and the same thing happens between Bass and Alto in measures 11-12. In measure 5 and measure 12, the Alto voices gives their note to the Soprano voices (an octave higher). These are just a few examples you can share with your choir.

What Is A Trope? During the Middle Ages, most of the Mass prayers were troped. As Father Friel reminds us, Sequences were tropes. The Kyrie was troped. The Gloria was troped. The Agnus Dei was troped. Even the readings were troped. The Kyrie which Father Guerrero uses (see above) is called “Kyrie Cum Jubilo.” In the Editio Vaticana, it’s called KYRIE IX. If you don’t know what a Trope is, please scroll to the bottom of this article:

*  Article • “Reform of the Reform” • Eight Lies We Were Told

No More Tropes: On 20 July 1562, during the 22nd Session of the Council of Trent, a commission of seven prelates was appointed to examine the question of liturgical abuses. Among the Postulata nonnullorum patrum circa varios abusus in missis subinductos—(“Petitions by certain Fathers about various abuses introduced into Mass”)—one finds the following: “Let those additions Mariam gubernans, Mariam coronans be removed from the hymn Glória in excélsis; they seem an unbefitting insertion” (source). On 7 January 1575, Father Guerrero’s chapter in Sevilla decreed that henceforth the Roman rite, as reformed by the Council of Trent, is to be used exclusively. This decree rendered obsolete such “troped” Masses as Guerrero’s De beata Virgine (1566) as well as polytextual Masses, such as his Beata Mater (1566). [But those who have attended the Sacred Music Symposium know that the texts can be altered so these Masses can still be used.]

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles, PDF Download Tagged With: Missa De Beata Virgine II, Piecemeal Polyphony Last Updated: February 26, 2022

Subscribe

It greatly helps us if you subscribe to our mailing list!

* indicates required

About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

Primary Sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

President’s Corner

    Job Opening • $65,000 per year +
    A parish 15 minutes away from me is looking for a choir director and organist. The parish is filled with young families. When I began my career, I would have jumped at such an opportunity! Saint Patrick’s in Grand Haven has a job opening for a music director paying $65,000 per year including benefits (plus weddings & funerals). Notice the job description says: “our vision for sacred music is to move from singing at Mass to truly singing the Mass wherein … especially the propers, ordinaries, and dialogues are given their proper place.” I lived in Kansas for 15 years, Texas for 10 years, and Los Angeles for 10 years. Michigan is the closest place I know to heaven!
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
    On a daily basis, I speak to people who don’t realize we publish a free newsletter (although they’ve followed our blog for years). We have no endowment, no major donors, no savings, and refuse to run annoying ads. As a result, our mailing list is crucial to our survival. Signing up couldn’t be easier: simply scroll to the bottom of any blog article and enter your email address.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Offertory” at Catholic Funerals
    I have argued that the OFFERTORY—at least in its ancient form—is more of a responsory than an antiphon. The 1962 Missal specifically calls it “Antiphona ad Offertorium.” From now on, I plan to use this beautiful setting (PDF) at funerals, since it cleverly inserts themes from the absolution of the body. Tons more research needs to be done on the OFFERTORY, which often is a ‘patchwork’ stitching together various beginnings and endings of biblical verses. For instance, if you examine the ancient verses for Dómine, vivífica me (30th Sunday in Ordinary Time) you’ll discover this being done in a most perplexing way. Rebecca Maloy published a very expensive book on the OFFERTORY, but it was a disappointment. Indeed, I can’t think of a single valuable insight contained in her book. What a missed opportunity!
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    New Bulletin Article • “12 October 2025”
    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 12 October 2025) talks about an ‘irony’ or ‘paradox’ regarding the 1960s switch to a wider use (amplior locus) of vernacular in the liturgy.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

“The Catholic Church holds it better for the sun and moon to drop from heaven, for the earth to fail, and for all the many millions on it to die of starvation in extremest agony, as far as temporal affliction goes, than that one soul, I will not say, should be lost, but should commit one single venial sin, should tell one willful untruth, or should steal one poor farthing without excuse.”

— Saint John Henry Newman (1865)

Recent Posts

  • Exclusive Interview • Hannah Houston w/ Mæstro Richard J. Clark
  • Job Opening • $65,000 per year +
  • “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
  • “Reader Feedback” • 5 November 2025
  • Never Work For A Priest Or Bishop Who Believes Sacred Music Should Be “Entertainment”

Subscribe

Subscribe

* indicates required

Copyright © 2025 Corpus Christi Watershed · Isaac Jogues on Genesis Framework · WordPress · Log in

Corpus Christi Watershed is a 501(c)3 public charity dedicated to exploring and embodying as our calling the relationship of religion, culture, and the arts. This non-profit organization employs the creative media in service of theology, the Church, and Christian culture for the enrichment and enjoyment of the public.