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Recording Release! • Marenzio’s “Salve Regina”

William J. Fritz · December 13, 2023

S THE NEXT PART in the series releasing the different recordings we captured during the 2023 Sacred Music Symposium, I have been tasked with writing up my thoughts on Marenzio’s setting of Salve Regina. I have been very, very behind in getting this article out—but we just had three immense and beautiful feast days for Our Lady over the weekend, so now is as good a time as any! Before you read the rest of my musings, you should brush up on Maestro Ostrovsky’s article going over the compositional techniques used in the piece. Find that here. [Also included at that link are rehearsal videos for each individual voice, for anyone interested in such things.] The recording is by symposium participants—several of whom had never before (!) sung a cappella polyphony—conducted by the legendary Dr. Alfred Calabrese:

And now the recording:

*  Mp3 Download • SALVE REGINA (à5)
—By Luca Marenzio (d. 1599AD) known in his time as: “Foremost Musician in Rome.”

Before You Read On • Did you listen? I hope you found it to be moving. But if you are reading on, you may not believe me on a certain point if you didn’t already listen to it before finding out what I am going to talk about. Go ahead and listen to it if you haven’t already. The article will wait for you while you do!

… article is patiently waiting for you…

My Lead Up • Alright, now that you have the recording fresh in your ears, I would like to focus on a feature of a cappella music: viz. the tendency to shift from the original pitch. In fact, you may have noticed, the pitch drifted down a half step in each of the three sections. I will save my main point for later, but let’s get the nitty-gritty facts out of the way:

According to my listening, the pitch starts a smidge below “concert” pitch, and then drifts solidly down to a half step flat by the entrance of the tenors in bar 7. It stays there consistently until the end of the first section (mostly—I heard a section that went a hair flatter, but the basses managed to push the pitch back up).

The second section (@3:00) [with a smaller group singing] starts with a new pitch, and then drifts a bit down after maybe 13 bars. By the entrance of the Bass “misericordes” we are a quarter tone flat. It then quickly gets down to a half step flat by the end of the section a dozen measures later.

The last section (@4:23) begins with a fresh pitch and then takes longer to drift down, first hitting a quarter tone flat 10 measures in, but then not quite settling on a half-step flat until about 17 measures later. Once a half step down, the choir remains there until the end.

Marenzio Floored • But, unless you have perfect pitch you may not have been bothered at all—maybe you do have perfect pitch, and it still didn’t bother you! Marenzio himself would most likely be floored by knowing that close to half a millennia later a group of dedicated Catholic musicians studied and worked on singing his masterpiece. The point I want to make is that going flat during a piece of choral music is not the end of the world. In fact, given the complexities of tuning and temperament, it is a wonder that pitch drift doesn’t happen more! Tuning has been a complicated issue—it only seems to be a historical oddity because we have almost universally adopted an equal temperament as the predominant way that tuning is done.

New “Wars” Series? • However, this won’t be an article on temperament. If it were, I would perhaps make many, many enemies. Maybe a future article. Or maybe I will spark a new series on “Chant Tuning Wars”?

I Could Cite… • I could also cite famous groups that have gone flat, sharp, and even both within a single piece. This has to do with many factors, one of which is certainly this idea of temperament and tuning.  You see, what we hear from a piano (or pitch pipe) is not a perfect fifth. The tuning of the pitches on a piano are slightly “bent” to have each of the 12 notes of the chromatic scale equally spaced apart, one from the next. (Hence, why it is called “equal temperament”.) So, if you sing certain intervals as an a cappella choir, tuning precisely a fifth, and then the next interval, or even if you approximate the pitch, there is a little drift to be expected. To illustrate this point, I did a little test with my choir: on YouTube a few years ago, I ran across a video claiming that there was a little musical puzzle that was “mathematically impossible” to stay on pitch. You can watch the video here:

My Choir’s Attempt • I think Adam Neely gives a pretty good outline of the problem … and what might happen with the pitch. I recorded my choir trying out the little “puzzle” for themselves to see if the pitch would drift at all:

*  Mp3 Download • Benedetti’s Puzzle
—Benedetti (Italian mathematician) shared this with composer Cipriano de Rore.

Results Revealed • Notice anything? We didn’t go sharp!!! That illustrates another issue at play: pitch memory and muscle memory. Rather than saying my choir has bad pitch perception, I’d say the piece is too short and too simple for any pitch drift. Each singer remembers the pitch they were singing and went straight back to it. Maybe you can try this with your choir as a little warm up piece … and then see if they drift sharp. It would be interesting to get some more instances of choirs singing it. (Hint hint.)

Back To Marenzio • Let’s go back to Marenzio’s Salve Regina. Perhaps there’s a subtle mathematical or musical bent in the harmonies that facilitate a downward tilt? I don’t know—but the pitch memory of the group was strong—since each time the choir went down nearly to a half step each time the pitch was reset (there are three sections to the Salve Regina). Because of certain restraints and constrictions, we weren’t able to record the entire piece from beginning to end. Maestro Ostrovsky promised it wouldn’t be an issue, but he was mistaken. We can punish him later!

To lay out everything I’ve said so far:

  • Sometimes pitch drift happens
  • Sometimes it’s because the choir is bad (but not necessarily)
  • Sometimes it’s because the choir is so good, that it drifts because of complicated ‘maths’
  • Sometimes the choir doesn’t drift, because they remember the pitch
  • Sometimes the choir does drift because they remember where they drifted to

My Main Point • So what’s my point? I don’t believe that any choir must measure success in singing a piece of music by how well they stayed on pitch. Certainly losing the pitch is catastrophic; but, as you hear in the recording of the Salve Regina, no one lost the pitch. Rather, each part responded and tuned to the other parts singing. This active, listening and engaged singing led us all to drift down and settle a half-step lower than we started.

Intriguing Question • Would we have gone down that far if we had started the pitch down a notch? I’ve sung in choirs where that is the case, and the choir is just drifting flat on a certain day. At times, I’ve also noticed choirs hold the pitch perfectly when we start the piece down (or up) to where we eventually go anyways.

Final Consideration • One last consideration: this recording was made Friday afternoon, after a week of intense study and work, including countless conferences, breakouts, Masses, Vespers, masterclasses, meals, and conversations. It’s also possible we were just tired from an amazing week and drifted flat. So … there’s that as well. Happy drifting!

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Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: 2023 SACRED MUSIC SYMPOSIUM RECORDINGS, Cipriano de Rore, Giovanni Battista Benedetti Last Updated: December 13, 2023

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William J. Fritz currently serves as music director at St. John the Baptist Catholic Church in Costa Mesa, CA where he resides with his wife and three boys.—(Read full biography).

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    “Music List” • 30th in Ordinary Time (Year C)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 26 October 2025, which is the 30th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the top-notch feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Little Encouragement?
    In the Gospel, our Savior tells about 10 lepers who were healed. Only one went back to give thanks. Precious few express gratitude, yet many have endless energy to complain. For that reason, I deeply appreciate receiving messages like the following, which arrived a few days ago (about the parish where I direct in Michigan): “Last Sunday, a couple I knew from Grand Rapids was at Mass at 10:00 a.m. I got a chance to talk to them after Mass. I wanted to let you know what they said about the choir. They were absolutely floored by our sound!!!!! They both said they could continuously listen to our choir and the beauty of it. They asked me: “Do you always sound like that?” And they were also very surprised at how packed the church was. They said it was nice for them to be in such a full church. I just thought you would be interested to know their thoughts about our choir.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    (Part 2) • Did they simplify this hymn?
    Choirs love to sing the resplendent tune called “INNSBRUCK.” Looking through a (Roman Catholic) German hymnal printed in 1929, I discovered what appears to be a simplified version of that hymn. Their harmonization is much less complex than the version found in the Father Brébeuf Hymnal (which is suitable for singing by SATB choir). Please download their 1929 harmonization (PDF) and let me know your thoughts. As always, the Germans added an organ INTRODUCTION. For the record, I posted a different harmonization a few months ago which was downloaded more than 2,000 times.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    New Bulletin Article • “12 October 2025”
    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 12 October 2025) talks about an ‘irony’ or ‘paradox’ regarding the 1960s switch to a wider use (amplior locus) of vernacular in the liturgy.
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    “American Catholic Hymnal” (1991)
    The American Catholic Hymnal, with IMPRIMATUR granted (25 April 1991) by the Archdiocese of Chicago, is like a compendium of every horrible idea from the 1980s. Imagine being forced to stand all through Communion (even afterwards) when those self-same ‘enlightened’ liturgists moved the SEQUENCE before the Alleluia to make sure congregations wouldn’t have to stand during it. (Even worse, everything about the SEQUENCE—including its name—means it should follow the Alleluia.) And imagine endlessly repeating “Alleluia” during Holy Communion at every single Mass. It was all part of an effort to convince people that Holy Communion was historically a procession (which it wasn’t).
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The “Nova Organi Harmonia” demanded from each of us an unusual commitment; we have dedicated to it the best of our energies. Would it be, therefore, presumptuous on our part to be satisfied with the result and to expect its welcome reception in the musical world?

— Msgr. Jules Van Nuffel (circa 1940)

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