• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

Jesus said to them: “I have come into this world so that a sentence may fall upon it, that those who are blind should see, and those who see should become blind. If you were blind, you would not be guilty. It is because you protest, ‘We can see clearly,’ that you cannot be rid of your guilt.”

  • Our Team
    • Our Editorial Policy
    • Who We Are
    • How To Contact Us
  • Pew Resources
    • Brébeuf Catholic Hymnal
    • Jogues Illuminated Missal
    • KYRIALE • Saint Antoine Daniel
    • Campion Missal, 3rd Edition
    • Repository • “Spanish Music”
    • Ordinary Form Feasts (Sainte-Marie)
  • MUSICAL WEBSITES
    • René Goupil Gregorian Chant
    • Noël Chabanel Psalms
    • Nova Organi Harmonia (2,279 pages)
    • Roman Missal, 3rd Edition
    • Father Enemond Massé Manuscripts
    • Lalemant Polyphonic
  • Miscellaneous
    • Site Map
    • Secrets of the Conscientious Choirmaster
    • “Wedding March” for lazy organists
    • Emporium Kevin Allen
    • Saint Jean de Lalande Library
    • Sacred Music Symposium 2023
    • The Eight Gregorian Modes
    • Gradual by Pothier’s Protégé
    • Seven (7) Considerations
  • Donate
Views from the Choir Loft

Cardinal Tobin says excluding EF Catholics is “good” so long as they’re not “banished” completely

Jeff Ostrowski · October 11, 2023

IRST I WILL comment on the video. Then I’ll share two personal stories of exclusion. With the archbishop of Newark, NJ (JOSEPH CARDINAL TOBIN), Diane Montagna had the following exchange, which was caught on video. Cardinal Tobin had said: “I think the real beauty of our Catholic Church is clear, when the doors are open and welcoming.” In response, Ms. Montagna asked how such a statement is consonant with recent Vatican attempts to kick Catholics out of their parishes, forcing them to celebrate the Holy Mass in other places such as gymnasiums.

Explicit & Specific • Diane Montagna asked specifically about parishes that were flourishing. Inexplicably, CARDINAL TOBIN chose to speak about parishes closed because they weren’t flourishing.

Here’s the direct URL link.

“So Long As They Aren’t Banished Completely” • Watch the video and judge for yourself. From what I can understand—and I’ve watched it twice—CARDINAL TOBIN says excluding EF Catholics is “good” (his word) as long as they’re not completely banished from the Catholic Church.

It’s Good For You! • Cardinal Tobin seems to be saying that moving Holy Mass from a flourishing parish Church into a gymnasium is actually a “good” thing, even though Catholics exercising what Pope Saint John Paul II called “legitimate aspirations” don’t realize it yet. (That’s what Cardinal Tobin said; watch the video.) It’s very difficult for me to understand how encouraging the People of God to treat certain Catholics as lepers is somehow equivalent to “welcoming.” Perhaps the best treatment of this situation so far was the heartfelt article published by Monsignor Charles Pope.

*  PDF Download • “From the Peripheries” (Mons. Charles Pope)
—Excerpt: “As a pastor of souls, I wince at this sort of language…”

“Ego Sum Ostium” • For the record, I believe CARDINAL TOBIN is incorrect to say that “the real beauty of our Catholic Church is … when the doors are open and welcoming.” The real beauty of our Catholic Church, at least according to what I was taught, is the REAL PRESENCE of Jesus Christ on our Altars. Jesus Christ, being the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, is infinitely more valuable than an open door. Indeed, our Savior said in John 10:9: “I am the door; a man will find salvation if he makes his way in through Me.”

Jeff Shares Personal
Examples of Exclusion

(1) Consider a Benedictine monk I’ve known for twenty years. A few months ago, he brought up something about the “love” and “tenderness” shown by the Vatican to those who feel excluded. Responding to this, I asked him about recent documents from Rome attempting to strangle communities attached to the Traditional Latin Mass. Several times I asked: “What are we to make of this? Who can explain this?” His response was to cut off all communication with me. Just like that. He didn’t even have the courtesy to say: “By the way, it’s been nice knowing you for the last 20 years.” I dared to ask a question—and that’s my punishment.

(2) Consider a priest in Rome, whom I’ve known for more than a decade. I’ve gone out of my way to help him, even sending books he requested (which cost hundreds of dollars to ship to Rome). A few months after TRADITIONIS CUSTODES was issued, I called him on the telephone. I was trying to come to grips with certain items—but the minute I asked him to help me understand, he hung up the phone and has never spoken to me again.

I have already written about how ignoring someone can be one of the cruelest things you can do. Therefore, I don’t need to go into all that again.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Last Updated: October 11, 2023

Subscribe

It greatly helps us if you subscribe to our mailing list!

* indicates required

About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

Primary Sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

President’s Corner

    “Gloria in Spanish” • Free Accompaniment
    Several people have requested an organ accompaniment for the GLORY TO GOD which prints the Spanish words directly above the chords. The Spanish adaptation—Gloria a Dios en el cielo—as printed in Roman Misal, tercera edición was adapted from the “Glória in excélsis” from Mass XV (DOMINATOR DEUS). I used to feel that it’s a pretty boring chant … until I heard it sung well by a men’s Schola Cantorum, which changed my view dramatically. This morning, I created this harmonization and dedicated it to my colleague, Corrinne May. You may download it for free. Please let me know if you enjoy it!
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    How Well Does ICEL Know Latin?
    This year, the Feast of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June 2025) will fall on a Sunday. It’s not necessary to be an eminent Latin scholar to be horrified by examples like this, which have been in place since 1970. For the last 55 years, anyone who’s attempted to correct such errors has been threatened with legal action. It is simply unbelievable that the (mandatory) texts of the Holy Mass began being sold for a profit in the 1970s. How much longer will this gruesome situation last?
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Is the USCCB trolling us?
    I realize I’m going to come across as a “Negative Nancy” … but I can’t help myself. This kind of stuff is beyond ridiculous. There are already way too many options in the MISSALE RECENS. Adding more will simply confuse the faithful even more. We seriously need to band together and start creating a “REFORM OF THE REFORM” Missale Romanum so it will be ready when the time comes.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    When to Sit, Stand and Kneel like it’s 1962
    There are lots of different guides to postures for Mass, but I couldn’t find one which matched our local Latin Mass, so I made this one: sit-stand-kneel-crop
    —Veronica Brandt
    The Funeral Rites of the Graduale Romanum
    Lately I have been paging through the 1974 Graduale Romanum (see p. 678 ff.) and have been fascinated by the funeral rites found therein, especially the simply-beautiful Psalmody that is appointed for all the different occasions before and after the funeral Mass: at the vigil/wake, at the house of the deceased, processing to the church, at the church, processing to the cemetery, and at the cemetery. Would that this “stational Psalmody” of the Novus Ordo funeral rites saw wider usage! If you or anyone you know have ever used it, please do let me know.
    —Daniel Tucker

Random Quote

“The unity of language in the liturgy is so great a treasure for the Church that no advantage could compensate for its demise.”

— Dom Anselmo Albareda (2 January 1953), Father Nicola Giampietro, page 249

Recent Posts

  • “Can the Choir Sing Alone at Mass?” • Yes! And Here’s Why That Matters
  • “Gloria in Spanish” • Free Accompaniment
  • How Well Does ICEL Know Latin?
  • Nobody Cares About This! • 1887 Rheims-Cambrai Gradual included “Restored” Plainsong
  • Is the USCCB trolling us?

Subscribe

Subscribe

* indicates required

Copyright © 2025 Corpus Christi Watershed · Isaac Jogues on Genesis Framework · WordPress · Log in

Corpus Christi Watershed is a 501(c)3 public charity dedicated to exploring and embodying as our calling the relationship of religion, culture, and the arts. This non-profit organization employs the creative media in service of theology, the Church, and Christian culture for the enrichment and enjoyment of the public.