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Views from the Choir Loft

“Could Women Sing At Mass Before Vatican II?”

Jeff Ostrowski · August 9, 2022

OPE SAINT PIUS X caused enormous confusion in 1903 when he issued his monumental sacred music document, Tra Le Sollecitudini. Specifically, I’m referring to §13, which said women “cannot form part of the choir.” For 50 years, virulent polemics ensued, with some attacking—and others defending—the idea that females were barred from singing at Mass. (In 1938, for example, Bishop Althoff explicitly condemned Illinois nuns who played the organ at Mass!)

Terminology • Believe it or not, there are two “choirs” in each church. The choir loft contains the chorus of lay people—but there’s another choir, located near the sanctuary. The sanctuary consists of two parts: (a) PRESBYTERIUM, where Mass is offered, and (b) CHOIR, where we see choir stalls facing each other. Liturgical books—when they say “choir”—don’t usually mean “people in the choir loft.” Usually, liturgical books are referring to the priests and seminarians in choro in the sanctuary, sitting in choir stalls wearing birettas. By the way, some pipe organs have three keyboards—SWELL, GREAT, and CHOIR—and perhaps an organ expert could explain that nomenclature to me. For the record, when liturgical books mention the pair of cantors who intone the KYRIE ELEYSON “in the middle of the choir” on Holy Saturday, they don’t mean the choir loft; they’re talking about the choir near the sanctuary.1

What Pius X Told Bishops • Catholics couldn’t discern what Pope Saint Pius X meant by his declaration that females “cannot be admitted to form part of the choir.” Which “choir” did he mean? For example, did Pius X really intend to bar ladies from singing the Mass Propers? Nuns had been doing that for centuries! Moreover, when bishops had private audiences with Pius X, he assured them that prohibiting women from singing during Mass was not his intention. On 25 December 1955, Pope Pius XII addressed this issue in §74 of MUSICAE SACRAE: “Where there are not enough choir boys, it is allowed that a group of men and women or girls—located in a place outside the sanctuary set apart for the exclusive use of this group—can sing the liturgical texts at Solemn Mass.”

Females At Our Parish • In our parish, we allow women to sing at Mass—and boy can they sing! [Pardon the pun!] During the month of July, our choir does not sing. (Dr. Calabrese says it’s not healthy for volunteer choirs to sing the entire year without time off.) But during the month of July, women may sing at our 9:00AM Mass if they desire—even though the full choir is on break. Here’s a hymn we sang on a recent Sunday, which is #816 in the Brébeuf hymnal:

Hymn? Or Chant? • The melody in that video is called RAYMBAULT and its metre is 11-10-11-10. Does this sound like a “hymn” to you? Or does it sound more like a plainchant composition? In my opinion, it sounds halfway in between. It reminds me of “Mary The Dawn” from the Saint Pius X Hymnal (1953). That same melody (RAYMBAULT) is used for #816 in The Saint Jean de Brébeuf Hymnal.

What About Men? • The piece above, in my humble opinion, would not sound good sung by men. However, the Brébeuf hymnal contains hundreds of magnificent hymns suitable for men and women. Below an example (whose famous melody is called “EISENACH”). All the Brébeuf harmonizations are superb, but this one is particularly striking. In it, you have long stretches of the Soprano descending by means of stepwise motion—and whilst that’s going on, the Bass will ascend by means of stepwise motion. (And vice-versa.) That technique, which was discussed during Sacred Music Symposium 2022, is partly what makes this hymn so beautiful. No matter how many times the singers have sung it in the past, it never gets old. It’s always a delight:

M Rehearsal videos for each individual voice await you at #435.

Sadness: Most readers won’t click on the individual voice parts, and that makes me sad. When we post a “scandalous” liturgical video, we get 40,000 views. I wish we could get as many views for the rehearsal videos—we must revive authentic sacred music!


NOTES FROM THIS ARTICLE:

1   In the Extraordinary Form, only clerics and seminarians may assist at Mass in choro wearing surplice and biretta. Laymen can wear a surplice, but never a biretta. If men sing from the sanctuary, they should wear cassock and surplice. (In the Extraordinary Form, women are never allowed to wear a surplice.) The “rood screen” can also be called: choir screen, chancel screen, or jube. The “sanctuary” may also be called the chancel. The “choir” near the sanctuary may also be spelled quire.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles, Featured Tagged With: Eisenach Hymn, Pius X Banned Women Singers, Pius X Prohibit Ladies Choir, Pope Pius X Female Singers, Rood Screen, The Catholic Hymnal Last Updated: August 20, 2022

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    Sevilla Cathedral (entry dated 13 December 1564): The chapter orders Luis Martínez, a cathedral chaplain, to stay away from the choirbook-stand when the rest of the singers gather around it to sing polyphony—the reason being that “he throws the others out of tune.” [Excerpt from “The Life of Father Francisco Guerrero.”]
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    Urgent! • We Desperately Need Funds!
    A few days ago, the president of Corpus Christi Watershed posted this urgent appeal for funds. Please help us make sure we’re never forced to place our content behind a paywall. We feel it’s crucial that 100% of our content remains free to everyone. We’re a tiny 501(c)3 public charity, entirely dependent upon the generosity of small donors. We have no endowment and no major donors. We run no advertisements and have no savings. We beg you to consider donating $4.00 per month. Thank you!
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    “Booklet of Eucharistic Hymns” (16 pages)
    I was asked to create a booklet for my parish to use during our CORPUS CHRISTI PROCESSION on 22 June 2025. Would you be willing to look over the DRAFT BOOKLET (16 pages) I came up with? I tried to include a variety of hymns: some have a refrain; some are in major, others in minor; some are metered, others are plainsong; some are in Spanish, some are in Latin, but most are in English. Normally, we’d use the Brébeuf Hymnal—but we can’t risk having our congregation carry those heavy books all over the city to various churches.
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Quick Thoughts

    Pope Pius XII Hymnal?
    Have you ever heard of the Pope Pius XII Hymnal? It’s a real book, published in the United States in 1959. Here’s a sample page so you can verify with your own eyes it existed.
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    “Hybrid” Chant Notation?
    Over the years, many have tried to ‘simplify’ plainsong notation. The O’Fallon Propers attempted to simplify the notation—but ended up making matters worse. Dr. Karl Weinmann tried to do the same in the time of Pope Saint Pius X by replacing each porrectus. You can examine a specimen from his edition and see whether you agree he complicated matters. In particular, look at what he did with éxsules fílii Hévae.
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    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
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