• Skip to primary navigation
  • Skip to main content
  • Skip to primary sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

Pope Saint Paul VI (3 April 1969): “Although the text of the Roman Gradual—at least that which concerns the singing—has not been changed, the Entrance antiphons and Communions antiphons have been revised for Masses without singing.”

  • Donate
  • Our Team
    • Our Editorial Policy
    • Who We Are
    • How To Contact Us
    • Sainte Marie Bulletin Articles
    • Jeff’s Mom Joins Fundraiser
  • Pew Resources
    • Brébeuf Catholic Hymnal
    • Jogues Illuminated Missal
    • Repository • “Spanish Music”
    • KYRIALE • Saint Antoine Daniel
    • Campion Missal, 3rd Edition
  • MUSICAL WEBSITES
    • René Goupil Gregorian Chant
    • Noël Chabanel Psalms
    • Nova Organi Harmonia (2,279 pages)
    • Roman Missal, 3rd Edition
    • Catechism of Gregorian Rhythm
    • Father Enemond Massé Manuscripts
    • Lalemant Polyphonic
    • Feasts Website
  • Miscellaneous
    • Site Map
    • Secrets of the Conscientious Choirmaster
    • “Wedding March” for lazy organists
    • Emporium Kevin Allen
    • Saint Jean de Lalande Library
    • Sacred Music Symposium 2023
    • The Eight Gregorian Modes
    • Gradual by Pothier’s Protégé
    • Seven (7) Considerations
Views from the Choir Loft

QfoR (“Questions From Our Readers”) • A New Series

Corpus Christi Watershed · August 2, 2022

Question Submitted on 1 August 2022
I am the music director at ————. I also sang in the EWTN choir for about eight years. As much as I love polyphony and chant (and believe they are truly beautiful and holy), your offerings of Mass parts such as these leave me feeling frustrated and confused. If we are to promote the full, active, and conscious participation of the assembly in the Mass, how do we justify singing Mass parts that the assembly can’t possibly sing? It’s always been my understanding that these Mass parts belong to the people. Do you have any suggestions on practical ways this kind of music can be used in a typical parish? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Response by D. F. F.

Vatican II • You ask: “How do we justify singing Mass parts that the assembly can’t possibly sing?” It is true Vatican II said Gregorian Chant should have “first place” (principem locum) in liturgical services, demonstrating clearly that the council fathers believed pieces sung in Latin were not a hindrance to “fully conscious and active participation in liturgical celebrations.” The council also specifically and explicitly praised polyphony (Sacrosanctum Concilium §116). Moreover, Vatican II said: “The musical tradition of the universal Church is a treasure of inestimable value, greater even than that of any other art” (Sacrosanctum Concilium §112). Then the council fathers said: “The treasury of sacred music is to be preserved and fostered with great care” (Sacrosanctum Concilium §114). In several other places, the council fathers addressed choral singing; e.g. “Choirs must be diligently promoted” (Sacrosanctum Concilium §114).

Clear Verdict • Normal human beings—provided they can read—will understand what Vatican II meant by the declarations cited above. For example, “preserved and fostered with great care” does not mean “denigrated and eliminated.” When the council fathers said choirs “must be diligently promoted,” the meaning is clear. Vatican II spoke of the Roman Catholic “[musical] treasure of inestimable value”—and the most important components of that treasury (most would agree) are the Mass settings by great composers. Palestrina composed something like 120 Mass settings. And we can’t forget about Josquin, Guerrero, Lassus, Victoria, Mozart, and so many others. In other words, Vatican II did not say: “Some parts of the treasury are fine, but other parts are deficient and must be eliminated.” Therefore, it seems impossible to accept the view that choral settings of the Mass Ordinary—such as the one you cite—would be prohibited.

“Participatio Actuosa” • How much should the congregation sing? How much should the choir sing? Choirmasters who have been ‘in the trenches’ generally agree it is not advisable to have congregations sing too much. They should not sing everything. (To force them to sing everything might even damage their voices.) Rather, they should sing certain things—and sing them well. The definitive statement on participatio actuosa (“active participation”) was written by Monsignor Robert A. Skeris:

*  PDF Download • “Participatio Actuosa” (17 pages)
—Published by Dr. Robert A. Skeris in 1973.

People’s Parts • We highly recommend that article by Monsignor Skeris, especially since it deals with the famous question of partes quae ad populum spectant (“parts that concern the people”). Essentially, the Holy Mass consists of certain texts and prayers that must be proclaimed in a new time and space. Whether these texts are proclaimed by the Deacon, the Celebrant, the Cantor, the Choir, or the Congregation does not invalidate them in any way.

Addendum • We believe that Corpus Christi Watershed has done a great deal to provide dignified settings that can be sung by the congregation. Consider Richard J. Clark’s “Mass in Honor of Pope Saint John Paul II,” which was included in the fifth edition of the famous SAINT MICHAEL HYMNAL. Jeff Ostrowski recently featured four Mass settings that work well with congregations. Other contributors to Corpus Christi Watershed have also written vernacular Mass settings which can be sung by congregtions.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: partes quae ad populum spectant, Questions From Our Readers Last Updated: August 2, 2022

Subscribe

It greatly helps us if you subscribe to our mailing list!

* indicates required

Primary Sidebar

Corpus Christi Watershed

President’s Corner

    “Music List” • Christ the King Sunday
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 23 November 2025, which is the 34th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. In the 1970 Missal, this Sunday is known as: Domini Nostri Jesu Christi Universorum Regis (“Solemnity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, King of the Universe”). As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the magnificent feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Simplified” Keyboard Accompaniment (PDF)
    I’d much rather hear an organist play a simplified version correctly than listen to wrong notes. I invite you to download this simplified organ accompaniment for hymn #729 in the Father Brébeuf Hymnal. The hymn is “O Jesus Christ, Remember.” I’m toying with the idea of creating a whole bunch of these, to help amateur organists. The last one I uploaded was downloaded more than 1,900 times in a matter of hours—so there seems to be interest in such a project. For the record, this famous text is often married to AURELIA, as it is in the Brébeuf Hymnal. The lyrics come from the pen of Father Edward Caswall (d. 1878), an Oratorian priest.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    ‘Bogey’ of the Half-Educated: Paraphrase
    Father Adrian Porter, using the cracher dans la soupe example, did a praiseworthy job explaining the difference between ‘dynamic’ and ‘formal’ translation. This is something Monsignor Ronald Knox explained time and again—yet even now certain parties feign ignorance. I suppose there will always be people who pretend the only ‘valid’ translation of Mitigásti omnem iram tuam; avertísti ab ira indignatiónis tuæ… would be “You mitigated all ire of you; you have averted from your indignation’s ire.” Those who would defend such a translation suffer from an unfortunate malady. One of my professors called it “cognate on the brain.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
    On a daily basis, I speak to people who don’t realize we publish a free newsletter (although they’ve followed our blog for years). We have no endowment, no major donors, no savings, and refuse to run annoying ads. As a result, our mailing list is crucial to our survival. Signing up couldn’t be easier: simply scroll to the bottom of any blog article and enter your email address.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

Had the Church never spoken on this matter, it would still be repugnant to our Catholic people’s sense of what is fit and proper in the holiest of places, that a priest should have to struggle through the prayers of the Holy Mass, because of such tunes as “Alice, where art thou?” the “Vacant Chair,” and others of more vulgar title, which, through the carelessness or bad judgment of organists, sometimes find their way into our choirs.

— Preface to a Roman Catholic Hymnal (1896)

Recent Posts

  • Veni Emmanuel: An Argument for the Anglican Rhythm
  • PDF Download • “Hymn for Christ the King”
  • “Music List” • Christ the King Sunday
  • PDF Download • “Pope Pius XII Psalter” — English, Latin, and Commentary (532 pages)
  • “Simplified” Keyboard Accompaniment (PDF)

Subscribe

Subscribe

* indicates required

Copyright © 2025 Corpus Christi Watershed · Isaac Jogues on Genesis Framework · WordPress · Log in

Corpus Christi Watershed is a 501(c)3 public charity dedicated to exploring and embodying as our calling the relationship of religion, culture, and the arts. This non-profit organization employs the creative media in service of theology, the Church, and Christian culture for the enrichment and enjoyment of the public.