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Views from the Choir Loft

Should Catholics Kneel At Mass?

Jeff Ostrowski · March 2, 2014

OT LONG AGO, I wrote an article exploring what Msgr. Schuler often called “piccoluomini logic,” but several email messages accused me of creating “straw man” arguments.

Consider the video on the upper right. This was excerpted from a 2013 promotional film for a Catholic church 1 and has been garnering tons of internet attention. In case you have difficulty playing the video, here’s an audio recording:

      * *  Deacon Sandy: “Kneeling At Mass” — Mp3 Audio File

I doubt I could find a better example of piccoluomini logic. It is faulty reasoning which seemingly “proves” the worth of some liturgical practice. But what does the President of the United States have to do with the Holy Eucharist? Our President is not our God. Besides, after the President walks into a classroom, the children sit down while he speaks. They do not remain standing.

When I was in fifth grade, there was a movement in our parish to remove the kneelers. We were told that standing was a sign of respect “in some Asian cultures.” At that point in my life, the theory sounded fresh and exciting, but now I think it’s misguided. More importantly, it’s unbiblical and ignores our tradition — whereas Catholics are called to respect liturgical tradition for weighty reasons. Moreover, kneeling is only natural when man enters into the presence of God.

On 24 February 2014, Deacon Sandy clarified his church’s lack of kneelers:

“The fact that we do not have kneelers dates back to when the church was built in 1957. Canon law allows for an exception for a Catholic Church to not have kneelers in certain circumstances, including ours when there is a period of 30 or more consecutive years when kneelers have not been present. We have permission from our prior archbishop citing the expense that we — a parish facing financial hardship — would incur, and loss of worship space seating that would be caused by adding kneelers.”

In my humble opinion, this video wouldn’t have received so much attention if Deacon Sandy had simply said, “We don’t have kneelers because we can’t afford them.”

PLEASE NOTE: I unequivocally condemn mean-spirited, venomous, and/or needless attacks on liturgies of our fellow Catholics. Usually such attacks indicate that the “attacker” has too much time on his hands. Besides, our world already has enough hatred and division. However, when it comes to public statements about the Catholic liturgy, we have an obligation to stand up for the truth.

I believe the issues at stake here are serious, and I sense a troubling “disconnect” between, on one hand, a purported canonical “loophole” owing to a financial situation, and, on the other, “bragging” about the practice of no kneelers.

I cannot shake the mental image of Archbishop Bugnini, who was able to contravene clear directives from Rome (saying Latin must be included alongside all vernacular Missals) by arguing that Asian printers were too dumb to print Latin characters adequately. One could ask, “Why did the Consilium go along with such a dubious proposal?” Reading a book by Cardinal Antonelli, I’m beginning to understand the answer, and hope to explain more in future posts. In a nutshell, this well-informed Cardinal was shocked by the Consilium’s haphazard procedures. Time and again, he lobbied for rules of order, but even basic ones — like properly recording votes — were lacking. He was also severely distressed by the speed at which Church laws were changing. I’ve mentioned that this was also worrisome to Fr. Georg May, a distinguished Canon lawyer. More on this at later date …



NOTES FROM THIS ARTICLE:

1   Could this be the same Church I visited as a child, when our family was on vacation in Wisconsin? That church also lacked kneelers.

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Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: Inter Oecumenici, Reform of the Reform Last Updated: September 30, 2023

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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President’s Corner

    ‘Bogey’ of the Half-Educated: Paraphrase
    Father Adrian Porter, using the cracher dans la soupe example, did a praiseworthy job explaining the difference between ‘dynamic’ and ‘formal’ translation. This is something Monsignor Ronald Knox explained time and again—yet even now certain parties feign ignorance. I suppose there will always be people who pretend the only ‘valid’ translation of Mitigásti omnem iram tuam; avertísti ab ira indignatiónis tuæ… would be “You mitigated all ire of you; you have averted from your indignation’s ire.” Those who would defend such a translation suffer from an unfortunate malady. One of my professors called it “cognate on the brain.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Father Cuthbert Lattey • “The Hebrew MSS”
    Father Cuthbert Lattey (d. 1954) wrote: “In a large number of cases the ancient Christian versions and some other ancient sources seem to have been based upon a better Hebrew text than that adopted by the rabbis for official use and alone suffered to survive. Sometimes, too, the cognate languages suggest a suitable meaning for which there is little or no support in the comparatively small amount of ancient Hebrew that has survived. The evidence of the metre is also at times so clear as of itself to furnish a strong argument; often it is confirmed by some other considerations. […] The Jewish copyists and their directors, however, seem to have lost the tradition of the metre at an early date, and the meticulous care of the rabbis in preserving their own official and traditional text (the ‘massoretic’ text) came too late, when the mischief had already been done.” • Msgr. Knox adds: “It seems the safest principle to follow the Latin—after all, St. Jerome will sometimes have had a better text than the Massoretes—except on the rare occasions when there is no sense to be extracted from the Vulgate at all.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Music List” • 9 Nov. (Dedic. Lateran)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 9 November 2025, which is the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica. If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the sensational feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
    On a daily basis, I speak to people who don’t realize we publish a free newsletter (although they’ve followed our blog for years). We have no endowment, no major donors, no savings, and refuse to run annoying ads. As a result, our mailing list is crucial to our survival. Signing up couldn’t be easier: simply scroll to the bottom of any blog article and enter your email address.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

“Urban VIII appointed four Jesuits to reform the hymns, so that they should no longer offend Renaissance ears. These four, in that faithful obedience to the Holy See which is the glory of their Society, with a patient care that one cannot help admiring, set to work to destroy every hymn in the office.”

— Fr. Adrian Fortescue (1916)

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