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Did These Public Statements by Father Gelineau Cross the Threshold From Folly to Sin?

Jeff Ostrowski · February 26, 2025

HERE IS MUCH I don’t understand about the world. For instance, many Catholics who—as far as I can tell—genuinely take their faith seriously often praise television shows and movies containing immorality: scenes with pornography; scenes which glorify taking the Lord’s Name in vain; scenes which promote immoral behavior (witchcraft, crystals, ouija boards, etc.); and scenes which seek to “normalize” crude, obscene, and smutty language—although they might technically avoid graphic acts against the 6th Commandment. I don’t claim to be an expert on what constitutes sinful behavior, and the internet seems particularly unsuitable for such discussions. Nevertheless, such things leave me scratching my head.

Crossing The Threshold • In a moment, I will bring up several reprehensible statements from a book by Father Joseph Gelineau (Chant Et Musique Dans Le Culte Chrétien) published in 1962. When it comes to the question of sin: Are we allowed to say in public absolutely anything we want about sacred traditions? Or can harmful, irresponsible, and foolish statements cross the threshold into the realm of sin? Today I will not accuse Father Gelineau of sin, because I (myself) don’t want to potentially commit sin. Nevertheless, certain statements by Father Gelineau are so foolhardy they seem to go beyond mere doltishness. The amount of time Gelineau spent composing “religious” music for non-Catholics also strikes me as highly questionable—especially when we consider the special vows Jesuits take!

Freedom Of Speech • Archbishop Sheen said famously: “Freedom is a word much abused.” Perhaps 99% of people in America believe that FREEDOM is a good thing. But Sheen reminds us that one can only be free from something for something else. Perhaps I can make it clear by analogy. Would you like to live in a society where men are “free” to abuse children? Would you like to live in a society where men are “free” to discriminate on the basis of skin color? If we’re honest, we must admit: freedom is a word much abused. Some would ask: “Isn’t Father Joseph Gelineau free to make any statements he wants? If he wants to attack the ancient traditions of the Catholic Church, who are we to complain?” But privately considering certain matters within the confines of one’s own heart is one thing. Making public statements seems a different matter entirely.

Scholarship’s Cardinal Sin • Throughout his book, Father Joseph Gelineau frequently commits what I consider the cardinal sin of scholarship: viz. making bizarre assertions without providing evidence. For instance,1 on pages 78-79, pages 96-97, and page 178 Father Gelineau keeps claiming that tons of chants were originally in simple “responsorial psalm” form. But he’s unable to cite a single example of this. If his claims are true (viz. that hundreds and hundreds of chants were originally responsorial psalms with simple refrains), he has an obligation to show us examples! What did these things look like? Where can they be found? At a minimum, Father Gelineau had an obligation to cite specific pages from specific manuscripts that give examples. But he was unable to cite a single example—because he’s not telling the truth!

Suppose I wrote an article saying that the entire repertoire of Gregorian Chant used “Jeffronian Psalmody” as its musical form. Would you not demand evidence? But Father Gelineau was unable to cite a single example of this (supposedly) widespread music—and his conduct is reprehensible.

Other Foolish Statements • A deep hatred for the THESAURUS MUSICAE SACRAE comes across in Father Gelineau’s book. For instance, on page 120 he condemns the use of graduals at Mass, in spite of the fact that they’re some of the most ancient sung prayers we have. They were preserved for century after century … yet Father Gelineau says they’re basically garbage and “raise a serious problem” (his words). Furthermore, on page 162—in ridiculously arrogant manner—Father Gelineau condemns the beautiful and ancient tradition of singing the Ite, Missa Est. The reasons he gives for its suppression are self-contradictory. Moreover, his “arguments” for its suppression demonstrate his shameful ignorance of the history of the Roman Rite.

Throughout his book, Father Gelineau comes across as an ignorant child. For instance, several times he condemns any setting of the KYRIE which don’t sound sad or mournful in spite of the immemorial traditions of the Catholic Church. Following his logic, whenever Christians sing a psalm they would first be required to divide each verse into “happy” and “sad” tones—but that has never been the tradition of the Church. Following his logic, GOOD FRIDAY would have to be renamed “Sad Friday.” I repeat: his views are so painfully superficial that he comes across as an ignorant child.

Indeed, in his arrogance, Father Gelineau has the audacity to condemn (!) every setting of the SANCTUS except for SANCTUS XVIII. It’s a pity that Christians who lived for 1,600 years didn’t have Father Gelineau’s amazing brain to correct them!

Conclusion • The whole attitude of Father Joseph Gelineau seems antithetical to the authentic spirit of the Company of Jesus, especially his lifelong efforts to compose music for non-Catholics. Once upon a time, the Jesuits were the “special operatives” of the Catholic faith. I see virtually no comparison between Father Gelineau and authentic Jesuits such as Father Antoine Daniel, Father François Bressani, and Father Isaac Jogues.

P.S.

On page 66 of Learning to Celebrate: The Mass and Its Music (National Association of Pastoral Musicians, 1985), Father Gelineau speaks in a very disparaging way of the GLORIA IN EXCELSIS, saying that praying it each Sunday “becomes routine and tiring.” Believe it or not, Gelineau says it can be used as an “Entrance Song.” Specifically, he writes:

It can sometimes be used—for example on Sundays after Christmas—as an Opening Song. This focuses new attention on it.

Gelineau objects to the GLORIA IN EXCELSIS, basically saying it’s a waste of time—“time that would be better used devoted to the word.” These words strike me as ignorant and scandalous.

1 Page numbers in this article refer to the English Translation: “Voices and Instruments in Christian Worship: Principles, Laws, Applications” (1964).

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: Chant Et Musique Dans Le Culte Chrétien, Father Joseph Gelineau Last Updated: May 20, 2025

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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President’s Corner

    Simplest “Agnus Dei” Ever Published
    Our choir is on break during the month of July. I needed a relatively simple “Agnus Dei,” so I composed this setting for organ & voice in honor of Saint René Goupil. It has been called the simplest setting ever composed. I love CARMEN GREGORIANUM (“Gregorian Chant”), especially the ALLELUIAS, INTROITS, and COMMUNION ANTIPHONS. That being said, some have pointed out that certain sections of the Kyriale aren’t as strong as the Graduale or Vesperale. There’s a reason for this—but it would be too complicated to explain at this moment.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    14th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C)
    Our choir is on break during the month of July. However, on the feasts website, the chants have been posted for the 14th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C), which is this coming Sunday: 6 July 2025.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Bugnini’s Statement (6 November 1966)
    With each passing day, more is revealed about how the enemies of the liturgy accomplished their goals. For instance, Hannibal Bugnini deeply resented the way Vatican II said Gregorian Chant “must be given first place in liturgical services.” On 6 November 1966, his cadre wrote a letter attempting to justify the elimination of Gregorian Chant with this brazen statement: “What really gives a Mass its tone is not so much the songs as it is the prayers and readings.” Bugnini’s cadre then attacked the very heart of Gregorian Chant (viz. the Proprium Missae), bemoaning how the Proprium Missae “is completely new each Sunday and feast day.” There is much more to be said about this topic. Stay tuned.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Pope Pius XII Hymnal?
    Have you ever heard of the Pope Pius XII Hymnal? It’s a real book, published in the United States in 1959. Here’s a sample page so you can verify with your own eyes it existed.
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    “Hybrid” Chant Notation?
    Over the years, many have tried to ‘simplify’ plainsong notation. The O’Fallon Propers attempted to simplify the notation—but ended up making matters worse. Dr. Karl Weinmann tried to do the same in the time of Pope Saint Pius X by replacing each porrectus. You can examine a specimen from his edition and see whether you agree he complicated matters. In particular, look at what he did with éxsules fílii Hévae.
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    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
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Random Quote

“I ask that future priests, from their time in the seminary, receive the preparation needed to understand and to celebrate Mass in Latin, and also to use Latin texts and execute Gregorian chant; nor should we forget that the faithful can be taught to recite the more common prayers in Latin, and also to sing parts of the liturgy to Gregorian chant.”

— Statement by the Supreme Pontiff (Sacramentum Caritatis, 22-feb-2007)

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