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Pope Saint Paul VI (3 April 1969): “Although the text of the Roman Gradual—at least that which concerns the singing—has not been changed, the Entrance antiphons and Communions antiphons have been revised for Masses without singing.”

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“Yes or No?” • Thoughts On Singing The Creed

Jeff Ostrowski · May 7, 2022

NE OF THE GREAT Church musicians of the century returned over and over again to a simple question: “What does his choir sound like?” In other words, somebody may use all the fancy words in the world, pontificating in a haughty manner—but when you hear his choir sing, you’ll be able to tell (instantaneously) whether the person is a charlatan. Once you hear with your own ears someone’s choir, you can decide whether it’s logical to seek his advice. If his choir sounds terrible, why would you trust his advice?

Pernicious Plague: The world of Catholic music is experiencing a pernicious plague. People on the internet (often hiding behind fake names) give tons of advice regarding choral music. Yet many have never stood in front of a choir in real life! Some may have sung in choirs—perhaps in high school or college—but that’s not the same as directing a choir in real life. The advice they give is frequently absurd and harmful. (They don’t realize this, because they have never stood in front of a choir.) People hiding behind fake internet names usually do so because they’re embarrassed of their credentials. Never forget that!

There Is Hope: Something exciting is coming in June: Sacred Music Symposium 2022. The experts serving as its clinicians direct choirs in real life; they are not charlatans. As I type these words, there are still a few spots remaining. Anyone serious about church music should consider attending this sensational conference.

Singing The Creed: I have never attended an Ordinary Form parish that actually sings the Creed, although MUSICAM SACRAM (5 March 1967) says Catholics are supposed to. In the Extraordinary Form, the Creed is sung often. At the Sacred Music Symposium, participants will notice the Creed is being sung in plainsong (Credo VII), but with SATB “snippets” inserted. This was done by design. It’s supposed to show participants that singing the entire Creed in polyphony is not required. For instance, some directors use plainsong but switch to polyphony for the “Et Incarnatus Est.” The following little harmonization—which might be dubbed “NOH Fauxbourdon”—fits nicely with Credo VII:

Rehearsal videos for each individual voice await you at #53998.

The Creed In English? It is also possible to sing the Creed in English. Those who desire a dignified setting might wish to explore the Saint Felix Creed Setting I composed about ten years ago.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: NOH Fauxbourdon, Singing the Creed Last Updated: May 7, 2022

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Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    New Bulletin Article • “21 September 2025”
    My pastor requested that I write short articles each week for our parish bulletin. Those responsible for preparing similar write-ups may find a bit of inspiration in these brief columns. The latest article (dated 21 September 2025) discusses some theological items—supported by certain verses in ancient Catholic hymns—and ends by explaining why certain folks become delirious with jealousy when they observe feats by Monsignor Ronald Knox.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Cheap! Cheap! Cheap!
    It’s always amusing to see old diocesan newspapers—in huge capital letters—advertising the Cheapest Catholic Paper in the United States. The correspondent who sent this to me added: “I can think of certain composers, published by large companies in our own day, who could truthfully brag about the most tawdry compositions in the world!” I wonder what she could have meant by such a cryptic comment…
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    PDF Download • Dom Murray Harmonies
    Along with so many others, I have deep respect for Dom Gregory Gregory Murray, who produced this clever harmonization (PDF) of “O SANCTISSIMA.” It’s always amazed me that Dom Gregory—a truly inspired composer—was so confused when it came to GREGORIAN CHANT. Throughout his life, he published contradictory statements, veering back-and-forth like a weather vane. Toward the end of his life, he declared: “I see clearly that the need for reform in liturgical music arose, not in the 18th and 19th centuries, but a thousand years earlier—in the 8th and 9th centuries, or even before that. The abuses began, not with Mozart and Haydn, but with those over-enthusiastic medieval musicians who developed the elaborate and flamboyant Gregorian Chant.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Karl Keating • “Canonization Questions”
    We were sent an internet statement (screenshot) that’s garnered significant attention, in which KARL KEATING (founder of Catholic Answers) speaks about whether canonizations are infallible. Mr. Keating seems unaware that canonizations are—in the final analysis—a theological opinion. They are not infallible, as explained in this 2014 article by a priest (with a doctorate in theology) who worked for multiple popes. Mr. Keating says: “I’m unaware of such claims arising from any quarter until several recent popes disliked by these Traditionalists were canonized, including John XXIII, Paul VI, and John Paul II. Usually Paul VI receives the most opprobrium.” Mr. Keating is incorrect; e.g. Father John Vianney, several centuries ago, taught clearly that canonizations are not infallible. Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen would be another example, although clearly much more recent than Saint John Vianney.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Vatican II Changed Wedding Propers?
    It’s often claimed that the wedding propers were changed after Vatican II. As a matter of fact, that is a false claim. The EDITIO VATICANA propers (Introit: Deus Israel) remained the same after Vatican II. However, a new set of propers (Introit: Ecce Deus) was provided for optional use. The same holds true for the feast of Pope Saint Gregory the Great on 3 September: the 1943 propers (Introit: Si díligis me) were provided for optional use, but the traditional PROPRIA MISSAE (Introit: Sacerdótes Dei) were retained; they weren’t gotten rid of. The Ordo Cantus Missae (1970) makes this crystal clear, as does the Missal itself. There was an effort made in the post-conciliar years to eliminate so-called “Neo-Gregorian” chants, but (contrary to popular belief) most were retained: cf. the feast of Christ the King, the feast of the Immaculate Conception, and so forth.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Solemn “Salve Regina” (Chant)
    How many “S” words can you think of using alliteration? How about Schwann Solemn Salve Score? You can download the SOLEMN SALVE REGINA in Gregorian Chant. The notation follows the official rhythm (EDITIO VATICANA). Canon Jules Van Nuffel, choirmaster of the Cathedral of Saint Rumbold, composed this accompaniment for it (although some feel it isn’t his best work).
    —Corpus Christi Watershed

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A priest celebrating the Mass “ad orientem” is no more turning his back on the people than a teacher leading her students in the “Pledge of Allegiance” is slighting them by turning her back on them and facing the flag with them.

— Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone (6 April 2025)

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