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Pope Saint Paul VI (3 April 1969): “Although the text of the Roman Gradual—at least that which concerns the singing—has not been changed, the Entrance antiphons and Communions antiphons have been revised for Masses without singing.”

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Archbishop Roche: What the Ordinary Form “has to learn” from the Extraordinary Form

Jeff Ostrowski · December 18, 2021

HE SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL mandated but did not oversee a reform of the liturgy. Many of the reformers were initially excited about changes, but once they saw the results they changed their minds. A good example would be Father Louis Bouyer, who was chosen to write EUCHARISTIC PRAYER NUMBER 2. Father Bouyer was certainly not a traditionalist, yet saw the deficiencies of the post-conciliar reforms, which he referred to as “the pathetic creature we produced.” Later in life, Father Bouyer admitted his team had no chance of succeeding, since their goal was “recasting from top to bottom—and in a few months!—an entire liturgy which required twenty centuries to develop.”

The following comments by Archbishop Roche are worth noting:

[TRANSCRIPT] Archbishop Roche • “The Church has given us the celebration of the Mass in two forms. The Ordinary Form is the Mass that was developed under blessed Pope Paul VI in the 1960s; that is the Ordinary Form. That is the form that every Catholic Christian should hold as being part of their Catholic life. The Extraordinary Form is another expression, which is older than the ’69 Missal, and is a valid expression of the Church’s liturgy. I think what both have to learn from each other is, on the one hand, the wide application of the Scriptures (which is available in the Novus Ordo Missae), and on the other hand a real sense of reverence and worship…”

*  Vimeo Link • Archbishop Roche Speaks
—What the Ordinary Form “has to learn” from the Extraordinary Form.

*  GloriaTV Link • Archbishop Roche Speaks
—Archbishop Roche: “Extraordinary Form is a valid expression.”

Arthur Roche has been Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments (CDW) since May 2021. He was Secretary of that congregation from 2012 to 2021.

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Filed Under: Articles, Featured Tagged With: Bishop Arthur Roche, Traditionis Custodes Motu Proprio, Traditionis Custodes Vernacular Last Updated: December 30, 2021

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    “Music List” • 17th in Ordinary Time (Year C)
    Some have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I prepared for the 17th Sunday in Ordinary Time (27 July 2025). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the the feasts website.
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    All of the chants for 27 July 2025 have been added to the feasts website, as usual under a convenient “drop down” menu. The COMMUNION ANTIPHON (both text and melody) are exceedingly beautiful and ancient.
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    “Hybrid” Chant Notation?
    Over the years, many have tried to ‘simplify’ plainsong notation. The O’Fallon Propers attempted to simplify the notation—but ended up making matters worse. Dr. Karl Weinmann tried to do the same in the time of Pope Saint Pius X by replacing each porrectus. You can examine a specimen from his edition and see whether you agree he complicated matters. In particular, look at what he did with éxsules fílii Hévae.
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    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
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