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Nine Questions About The Latin Mass You Were Too Embarrassed To Ask

Jeff Ostrowski · April 21, 2017

220 Father Federico Masutti Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter FSSP HIS COMING SUNDAY, Fr. Gerard Saguto, District Superior of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter (FSSP), will offer the 7:00pm Mass at Saint Victor Church in Hollywood. It will be a SOLEMN HIGH MASS with sacred polyphony and Gregorian chant—a fabulous opportunity to invite friends who have never experienced the Latin Mass.

Here are nine questions your friends may ask:

(1) Is the Traditional Mass disobedient?

In 1988, Pope St. John Paul II founded the FSSP. Our name was chosen by Josef Cardinal Ratzinger, to remind everyone we are fully in union with Rome. Indeed, starting in 2007 every priest has the right to offer the Traditional Latin Mass, and bishops can no longer forbid this.

Pope Benedict XVI declared (7 July 2007): “What earlier generations held as sacred, remains sacred and great for us too, and cannot be suddenly entirely forbidden or considered harmful.”


(2) How different is it from the Ordinary Form?

When the Ordinary Form is celebrated “by the book,” the differences aren’t as drastic. But this is rare, as Cardinal Ratzinger said quite well. (Scroll to the bottom of this article to read an “addendum” with elaboration.)

For example, both forms refer to this coming Sunday (23 April) as “Quasimodo Sunday.” But very few people attending the Ordinary Form even realize that, for reasons explained by Fr. David Friel.


(3) Are my kids welcome?

I’ve never met an FSSP priest who doesn’t love children; they are particularly welcoming to large families. Sometimes priests will say “children making noise at church doesn’t bother me”—only to discover later on they weren’t telling the truth. But our FSSP priests aren’t like that; they view kids as our Church’s future.

Our evening Mass is quieter than a morning Mass, mainly because Saint Victor has the greatest cry room in the world. It’s next to the Altar, behind glass. Check out our cry room view.


(4) What if I don’t know how to participate?

Saint Victor has special hymnals—enough for everyone who comes—containing the complete Mass texts in English and Latin, alongside color pictures. That’s the best way, because some older books can be confusing.

Please read this recent testimony from a mother at Saint Victor and consider whether there’s any reason to be nervous.


(5) Will I enjoy it?

When we first attended the Traditional Latin Mass, my brothers hated it—and so did I. But our mother kept forcing us to attend, and with the passage of time we came to love it deeply.

I clearly remember one thing about that first time: the priest always kept his head down, with his eyes humbly focused on prayer and nothing else—as if he were a slave. That’s how all the FSSP priests offer Mass, because the rubrics control everything the priest does: bowing, arm placement, genuflection, when to kiss the Altar, even what to look at and when.


(6) Is the entire Mass silent?

It depends. Low Masses are usually extremely quiet, but High Masses—if done correctly—contain almost no silence, in spite of a common myth repeated by people who lack familiarity with the traditional liturgy.


(7) Aren’t the Latin Mass people weird and grumpy?

Those of us who started attending the Traditional Mass in the 1990s did come across some strange people who seemed perpetually angry—but that was twenty years ago!  Most of that has faded away.

The people I meet at traditional communities are friendly, smart, brave, honest, and holy. The reputation of “grumpy traddies” is a myth, stemming from so-called “ultra-traditionalist” websites run by angry individuals who don’t accurately represent the traditionalist movement. The worst examples are by cowards who publish under false names, usually to conceal their credentials.

The reason the “good guys” don’t have an equal online presence is simple: they’re too busy saving souls to spend all day typing on the computer. For example, the FSSP priests are not allowed to be on Facebook.


(8) Will people stare at me and judge me?

The only reason people would stare is if you’re dressed immodestly. Those who attend the Traditional Mass tend to leave one another in peace during Mass. They are not “in your face”—because everyone is too busy adoring the Lord.

Have you ever been the victim of a phone assault? I refer to organizations who force you to listen to an automated voice repeating the same information over and over. In my opinion, such assaults are beyond offensive and should be illegal. The Latin Mass is the opposite, because all participate at their own pace. Some read every single proper, even the priest’s private prayers. Others pray the Rosary, as Pope Leo XIII mandated. Indeed, Pope Pius XII said (cf. §108) those participating at Mass “can adopt some other method which proves easier for certain people; for instance, they can lovingly meditate on the mysteries of Jesus Christ or perform other exercises of piety or recite prayers which, though they differ from the sacred rites, are still essentially in harmony with them.”


(9) Isn’t this all about recreating some former time period?

No, the Traditional Latin Mass is not about museum pieces. At the same time we must be wary of discarding anything that’s ancient, because then we’d have to throw out the Bible!

Some things can never go out of style: truth, holiness, philosophy, beauty, love, and so forth. Moreover, the rites, prayers, and songs of the Extraordinary Form go back verbatim to the 5th century—or even further back than that (but this is hard to know, because we have very little documentation). We should be careful before we eliminate traditions so ancient.

So, what are you waiting for? I hope to see you Sunday evening in West Hollywood!

217 Palm Sunday


To learn more about our brand new Latin Mass Apostolate in Los Angeles, you can start by perusing the bulletin archive.



ADDENDUM FOR THIS ARTICLE:

Many changes made in 1970 were not in accordance with what the Council actually wanted. Indeed, the two things most associated with Vatican II—Mass “facing the people” and elimination of Latin—were done in opposition to what the Council mandated.

Consider the musical situation. The ancient propers in the Ordinary Form are taken from the same book as the Traditional Latin Mass. (To see this, download the Vatican II “Ordo Cantus Missae.”) But a loophole was added in 1970 which says hymns can substitute for the official texts. The substitute hymns are supposed to be approved by the local bishop, but a USCCB committee made matters worse by saying certain parts of the GIRM can be ignored. The result is that 95% of parishes replace all the propers, without even realizing what’s happening. I know several music directors who literally “roll the dice” each Sunday to choose four hymns—and who can blame them?—because constantly replacing the official texts becomes tedious.

Secular styles were also introduced during the 1970s, and I believe this was the primary reason for the improbable triumph of the Latin Mass. These days, it has become fashionable to pretend all styles of music are appropriate for Mass: jazz, rock, polka, and so forth. But even a small child realizes that the inherent qualities of some musical styles (for example, the “Addams Family Theme Song”) are not sacred.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    Good Friday Flowers
    Good Friday has a series of prayers for various parties: the pope, catechumens, pagans, heretics, schismatics, and so forth. In the old liturgical books, there was no official ‘name’ for these prayers. (This wasn’t unusual as ‘headers’ and ‘titles’ for each section is a rather modern idea.) The Missal simply instructed the priest to go to the Epistle side and begin. In the SHERBORNE MISSAL, each prayer begins with a different—utterly spectacular—flower. This PDF file shows the first few prayers. Has anyone counted the ‘initial’ drop-cap flowers in the SHERBORNE MISSAL? Surely there are more than 1,000.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Music List • (3rd Sunday of Lent)
    Readers have expressed interest in seeing the ORDER OF MUSIC I created for this coming Sunday, which is the 3rd Sunday of Lent (8 March 2026). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. This feast has magnificent propers. Its stern INTROIT (“Óculi mei semper ad Dóminum”) is breathtaking, and the COMMUNION (“Qui bíberit aquam”) with its fauxbourdon verses is wonderful. I encourage all the readers to visit the feasts website, where the Propria Missae may be downloaded completely free of charge.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    PDF Download • “Ubi Caritas” (SATB)
    I remember singing “Ubi Cáritas” by Maurice Duruflé at the conservatory. I was deeply moved by it. However, some feel Duruflé’s version isn’t suitable for small choirs since it’s written for 6 voices and the bass tessitura is quite low. That’s why I was absolutely thrilled to discover this “Ubi cáritas” (SATB) for smaller choirs by Énemond Moreau, who studied with OSCAR DEPUYDT (d. 1925), an orphan who became a towering figure of Catholic music. Depuydt’s students include: Flor Peeters (d. 1986); Monsignor Jules Van Nuffel (d. 1953); Arthur Meulemans (d. 1966); Monsignor Jules Vyverman (d. 1989); and Gustaaf Nees (d. 1965). Rehearsal videos for each individual voice await you at #19705. When I came across the astonishing English translation for “Ubi Cáritas” by Monsignor Ronald Knox—matching the Latin’s meter—I decided to add those lyrics as an option (for churches which have banned Latin). My wife and I made this recording to give you some idea how it sounds.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    “Dies Irae” • A Monstrous Translation
    It isn’t easy to determine what Alice King MacGilton hoped to accomplish with her very popular book—A Study of Latin Hymns (1918)—which continued to be reprinted in new editions for at least 34 years. This PDF file shows her attempt to translate the DIES IRAE “in the fewest words possible.” There’s a place for dynamic equivalency, but this is repugnant. In particular, look what she does to “Quærens me sedísti lassus.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    PDF Download • “Holy, Holy, Holy”
    For vigil Masses on Saturday (a.k.a. “anticipated” Masses) we use this simpler setting of the “Holy, Holy, Holy” by Monsignor Jules Vyverman (d. 1989), a Belgian priest, organist, composer, and music educator who ultimately succeeded another ‘Jules’ (CANON JULES VAN NUFFEL) as director of the Lemmensinstituut in Belgium. Although I could be wrong, my understanding is that the LEMMENSINSTITUUT eventually merged with “Catholic University of Leuven” (originally founded in 1425). That’s the university Fulton J. Sheen attended.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Grotesque Pairing • “Passion Chorale”
    One of our rarest releases was undoubtably this PDF scan of the complete Pope Pius XII Hymnal (1959) by Father Joseph Roff, a student of Healey Willan. One of the scarcest titles in existence, this book was provided to us by Mr. Peter Meggison. Back in 2018, we scanned each page and uploaded it to our website, making it freely available to everyone. Readers are probably sick of hearing me say this, but just because we upload something that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s wonderful or worthy of imitation. We upload many publications precisely because they are ‘grotesque’, interesting, or revealing. Whereas the Brébeuf Catholic Hymnal had an editorial board that was careful and sensitive vis-à-vis pairing texts with tunes, the Pope Pius XII Hymnal (1959) seems to have been rather reckless in this regard. Please take a look at what they did with the PASSION CHORALE and see whether you agree.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

“Every medicine does not suit every stage of sickness; because the tonic given to those who are recovering from fever would be hurtful to them if given while yet in their feverish condition. So likewise Baptism and Penance are as purgative medicines, given to take away the fever of sin; whereas this sacrament [the Sanctissimum] is a medicine given to strengthen, and it ought not to be given except to them who are quit of sin.”

— Saint Thomas Aquinas Re: the EUCHARIST

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