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Views from the Choir Loft

Positive Liturgical Fruits Of Vatican II: First Part

Jeff Ostrowski · January 20, 2014

ATHOLICS ARE THRICE REMOVED from Vatican II. Firstly, the reform of the Liturgy was not done according to the Council’s prescriptions. Secondly, reprehensible techniques were used to undermine ecclesiastical decrees. 1 Thirdly, many clerics simply ignored the Council’s documents. But I shall not speak of such things today, because I promised to mention some good fruits of the conciliar liturgical reforms.

860 Tridentine Mass THE COUNCIL ENCOURAGED THE LAITY to closely follow the liturgical ceremonies, and I believe this goal to be noble and fully appropriate. Because of notorious distortions 2 by certain parties, it’s easy to overlook the importance of this encouragement, and the same thing could be said about the Council’s promotion of congregational singing.

Perhaps a story will help convey what I’m getting at. Years ago, my wife and I attended Mass in Europe and the priest used the 1962 Missal. As shown by this illustration, the Altar was placed at the front. The nave was further separated by a massive space that (perhaps?) was once used for choir stalls. However, the sparse congregation was mainly situated at the very back of the Church. Believe it or not, about 25% were standing behind the nave, underneath the choir loft.

In essence, the ceremonies were separated from the people by the length of a football field — at least it felt that way! While I’m definitely NOT a person who advocates lay people flippantly entering the Sanctuary, in this instance, I wondered why the people weren’t invited to sit where the old choir stalls used to be. I suppose even suggesting this makes me sound like a “progressive.” On the other hand, I agree that parents with small children should be free to go sit in the back of Church — but that’s a whole different subject!

Consider another example. Before the Council, the celebrant, deacon, and subdeacon would often pray their breviary as the choir was singing the Gloria and Creed. Or, take another example: a few weeks ago, I attended a celebration of the Extraordinary Form and not a single member of the large congregation followed a Missal or booklet. This was doubly frustrating to me, since we have produced an affordable congregational book for the Extraordinary Form.

VATICAN II REMINDED US THAT SUCH SITUATIONS are not the ideal, and it would be difficult to contest this. The odd thing is, in some respects, Vatican II didn’t go as far as Pius XII had in 1958 regarding active participation of the faithful. Many people still don’t realize that, in addition to the “dialogue Mass,” Pius XII allowed the congregation to recite the Propers at Mass:

      * *  1958 Document — Congregation allowed to recite Propers along with the priest

In fact, Pope Pius XII was very ill when this bizarre permission was promulgated. I say “bizarre” because the Propers have never belonged to the congregation. (To understand why, see the series by László Dobszay.) The Second Vatican Council backpedaled from this position, as Msgr. Schmitt explained in 1964:

ONCERNING “PEOPLE’S PARTS”: Following the language of American commentators of the popular liturgical school, the bishops had lumped all of the ordinary and proper parts of the Mass together under the “quod pertinet ad populum“ banner. This, of, course, is not the language of the Constitution, which uses the “quod pertinet“ phrase only in reference to the ordinary; and, even there, in the original draft, a foot-note explained that, along with the acclamations, the Sanctus and Creed were the two essential and traditional parts quod pertinet ad populum. The foot-note was dropped, not because it did not hold water, but because, in the questionable interests of brevity, all foot-notes were dropped. Anyway, the post-conciliar commission again pulled things back into the context of the Constitution by dropping the “quod pertinet“ phrase altogether, and Cardinal Lercaro’s commission could hardly be classified as conservative.

You can read more about this subject on pages 19-20 here.

OVER THE YEARS, WE HAVE BEEN CRITICAL of folks who disregard the clear provisions of Vatican II, and we will continue to do so. If we don’t, how will these errors ever be corrected? Those who doubt the power of thoughtful, respectful, persistent criticism should read Number 4. One thing in particular we will continue to comment on is the “War on Thee, Thou, & Thine.” We touched on this subject briefly here, but much more needs to be discussed.



NOTES FROM THIS ARTICLE:

1   Examples of this second type abound. For instance, Bugnini discarded the provision in Inter Oecumenici requiring all Missals to include the full Latin alongside the vernacular claiming “Asian printers” aren’t smart enough to print Latin characters.

2   Sadly, this principle was frequently taken to extremes, as hundreds of authors have chronicled. This principle can never mean that every person will participate at Mass in exactly the same way. Cardinal Ratzinger reminded us that sometimes the best way an individual of limited education (e.g. the illiterate) can participate at Mass is praying the Rosary. Msgr. Schmitt agrees, and says forcing all to participate in exactly the same way would be “recruiting candidates for the lunatic asylums” (cf. concluding paragraph here). Furthermore, suitable time must be allotted for meditation and contemplation.



UPDATE (17 September 2014) :

I might be wrong about the Ratzinger quote (see comments below). And here are some nice paragraphs by Pius XII, courtesy of Fr. Kevin Vogel:

Thank you for the clarification. The distinction between the levels/forms of participation reminds me of what Piux XII said in Mediator Dei. Paragraph 105 seems to express more the ideal, while 108 affirms one can still participate in other ways:

105. Therefore, they are to be praised who, with the idea of getting the Christian people to take part more easily and more fruitfully in the Mass, strive to make them familiar with the “Roman Missal,” so that the faithful, united with the priest, may pray together in the very words and sentiments of the Church. They also are to be commended who strive to make the liturgy even in an external way a sacred act in which all who are present may share. This can be done in more than one way, when, for instance, the whole congregation, in accordance with the rules of the liturgy, either answer the priest in an orderly and fitting manner, or sing hymns suitable to the different parts of the Mass, or do both, or finally in high Masses when they answer the prayers of the minister of Jesus Christ and also sing the liturgical chant.

108. Many of the faithful are unable to use the Roman missal even though it is written in the vernacular; nor are all capable of understanding correctly the liturgical rites and formulas. So varied and diverse are men’s talents and characters that it is impossible for all to be moved and attracted to the same extent by community prayers, hymns and liturgical services. Moreover, the needs and inclinations of all are not the same, nor are they always constant in the same individual. Who, then, would say, on account of such a prejudice, that all these Christians cannot participate in the Mass nor share its fruits? On the contrary, they can adopt some other method which proves easier for certain people; for instance, they can lovingly meditate on the mysteries of Jesus Christ or perform other exercises of piety or recite prayers which, though they differ from the sacred rites, are still essentially in harmony with them.

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Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: Consilium of Pope Paul VI, Liturgy of the Second Vatican Council Last Updated: January 1, 2020

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Michigan. —(Read full biography).

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    ‘Bogey’ of the Half-Educated: Paraphrase
    Father Adrian Porter, using the cracher dans la soupe example, did a praiseworthy job explaining the difference between ‘dynamic’ and ‘formal’ translation. This is something Monsignor Ronald Knox explained time and again—yet even now certain parties feign ignorance. I suppose there will always be people who pretend the only ‘valid’ translation of Mitigásti omnem iram tuam; avertísti ab ira indignatiónis tuæ… would be “You mitigated all ire of you; you have averted from your indignation’s ire.” Those who would defend such a translation suffer from an unfortunate malady. One of my professors called it “cognate on the brain.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Father Cuthbert Lattey • “The Hebrew MSS”
    Father Cuthbert Lattey (d. 1954) wrote: “In a large number of cases the ancient Christian versions and some other ancient sources seem to have been based upon a better Hebrew text than that adopted by the rabbis for official use and alone suffered to survive. Sometimes, too, the cognate languages suggest a suitable meaning for which there is little or no support in the comparatively small amount of ancient Hebrew that has survived. The evidence of the metre is also at times so clear as of itself to furnish a strong argument; often it is confirmed by some other considerations. […] The Jewish copyists and their directors, however, seem to have lost the tradition of the metre at an early date, and the meticulous care of the rabbis in preserving their own official and traditional text (the ‘massoretic’ text) came too late, when the mischief had already been done.” • Msgr. Knox adds: “It seems the safest principle to follow the Latin—after all, St. Jerome will sometimes have had a better text than the Massoretes—except on the rare occasions when there is no sense to be extracted from the Vulgate at all.”
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Music List” • 9 Nov. (Dedic. Lateran)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 9 November 2025, which is the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica. If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the sensational feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

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    “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
    On a daily basis, I speak to people who don’t realize we publish a free newsletter (although they’ve followed our blog for years). We have no endowment, no major donors, no savings, and refuse to run annoying ads. As a result, our mailing list is crucial to our survival. Signing up couldn’t be easier: simply scroll to the bottom of any blog article and enter your email address.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
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    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski

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