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Views from the Choir Loft

“What A Choral Conductor Must Know” • Interview with Dr. John Paul Johnson

Corpus Christi Watershed · January 13, 2025

HE PRESIDENT of Corpus Christi Watershed recently interviewed DR. JOHN PAUL JOHNSON, a frequent guest conductor at Carnegie Hall in New York City. His choirs have sung across the globe, on national television, and on public radio. Dr. Johnson has served as conductor-in-residence at the Chopin Academy of Music (Warsaw) and Trinity College of Music (London). He replaced SIMON CARRINGTON as director of choral activities at the University of Kansas,1 simultaneously serving as director of graduate studies. He has been chosen as guest conductor, clinician, or adjudicator for more than 700 festivals and workshops worldwide.

Pro Tip • The story told by Dr. Johnson vis-à-vis the first time he conducted at CARNEGIE HALL is not to be missed. It begins around the 18:20 marker:

Here’s the direct URL link.

Some Topics Broached:

(1) A particular conductor who’s a terrible singer

(2) Rehearsing without a piano

(3) “Audiation” for students going to a competition

(4) Dr. Johnson’s his first time conducting in Carnegie Hall

(5) Throwing a music stand through a wall

(6) Score-study after retirement (“learning music you’ll never conduct”)

(7) Those who get “sucked in” when nobody else will conduct

(8) Singers who skip rehearsal

(9) Fundraising

(10) Whether conducting is “the easiest thing in the world”

(11) Taking advice about one’s own conducting

(12) Learning from someone you trust

(13) When you hate your own voice

(14) Doing things you warn your students not to do

(15) When you hear individuals singing instead of choral sound

(16) Wowels not lining up

(17) The “waxed pear” trick

(18) Are you “convinced” when you hear a performance?

(19) The four “main things” for a choral director

(20) Dr. Johnson—like Jeff Ostrowski—has the singers themselves reflect on what they’re hearing

(21) How to “match” vowels on extremely polyphonic music

(22) Lifting the soft palette

(23) Common problems that plague students emerging from a conservatory

(24) The importance of appraising correctly a choir you’re choosing repertoire for

(25) “Tricking” choirs into singing high notes

(26) Tips on choosing repertoire from J.W. Pepper online

(27) Which classes you must not skip at college

(28) Being aware of what you don’t know

(29) Pieces every choral conductor should know

(30) The value of Renaissance choral music

(31) One of Dr. Johnson’s most cherished conversations

(32) Story about a broken pipe organ

(33) Swedish “holler” song

(34) Different “continuo” instruments

(35) Performing at Kennedy Center for Performing Arts

(36) Why it’s hard to get standing ovation in Lawrence, KS

(37) The Duruflé Requiem

(38) Conducting the “Duruflé Requiem” at Carnegie Hall

1 Dr. Johnson also held distinguished teaching positions at Texas State University and Wichita State University.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

Filed Under: Articles Tagged With: Dr John Paul Johnson, Duruflé Requiem, Simon Carrington, University of Kansas Last Updated: January 13, 2025

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President’s Corner

    Simplest “Agnus Dei” Ever Published
    Our choir is on break during the month of July. I needed a relatively simple “Agnus Dei,” so I composed this setting for organ & voice in honor of Saint René Goupil. It has been called the simplest setting ever composed. I love CARMEN GREGORIANUM (“Gregorian Chant”), especially the ALLELUIAS, INTROITS, and COMMUNION ANTIPHONS. That being said, some have pointed out that certain sections of the Kyriale aren’t as strong as the Graduale or Vesperale. There’s a reason for this—but it would be too complicated to explain at this moment.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    14th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C)
    Our choir is on break during the month of July. However, on the feasts website, the chants have been posted for the 14th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C), which is this coming Sunday: 6 July 2025.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Bugnini’s Statement (6 November 1966)
    With each passing day, more is revealed about how the enemies of the liturgy accomplished their goals. For instance, Hannibal Bugnini deeply resented the way Vatican II said Gregorian Chant “must be given first place in liturgical services.” On 6 November 1966, his cadre wrote a letter attempting to justify the elimination of Gregorian Chant with this brazen statement: “What really gives a Mass its tone is not so much the songs as it is the prayers and readings.” Bugnini’s cadre then attacked the very heart of Gregorian Chant (viz. the Proprium Missae), bemoaning how the Proprium Missae “is completely new each Sunday and feast day.” There is much more to be said about this topic. Stay tuned.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Pope Pius XII Hymnal?
    Have you ever heard of the Pope Pius XII Hymnal? It’s a real book, published in the United States in 1959. Here’s a sample page so you can verify with your own eyes it existed.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    “Hybrid” Chant Notation?
    Over the years, many have tried to ‘simplify’ plainsong notation. The O’Fallon Propers attempted to simplify the notation—but ended up making matters worse. Dr. Karl Weinmann tried to do the same in the time of Pope Saint Pius X by replacing each porrectus. You can examine a specimen from his edition and see whether you agree he complicated matters. In particular, look at what he did with éxsules fílii Hévae.
    —Corpus Christi Watershed
    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
    —Corpus Christi Watershed

Random Quote

“The following few hints on the selection of voices may be useful: (1) Reject all boys who speak roughly, or sing coarsely; (2) Choose bright, intelligent-looking boys, provided they have a good ear; they will much more readily respond to the choirmaster’s efforts than boys who possess a voice and nothing more; therefore, (3) Reject dull, sulky, or scatter-brained boys, since it is hard to say which of the three has the most demoralizing effect on his more willing companions.”

— Sir Richard Runciman Terry (1912)

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