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Views from the Choir Loft

The Place of Pews in the Church

Veronica Brandt · September 9, 2017

empty church OU ENTER A CHURCH, you expect there to be somewhere to sit. There might be pews or chairs—hopefully they also have kneelers. But it wasn’t always like that.

I had not given it much thought until I came across this article: The History of Pews is Just as Terrible and Embarrassing as You’d Imagine. Seating only came in with the extended preaching of the Protestants.

My favorite quote from the article, musing about what the people did without seats: “There’s no record of whether they engaged in stage dives and crowd surfing, so we’re forced to assume they did.”

But jokes aside, imagine what it would be like.

Even now many Orthodox churches function without seating for the congregation. They even speak of the Advantage of Having No Pews as this article from St Basil’s Ukrainian Catholic Mission describes.

Many who visit St. Basil comment on how friendly the mission is to families with young children, particularly parents and grandparents. This, I am convinced, is one of the greatest benefits of our having no pews.

The mention of being family friendly resonates with me. I spend the average sung Mass standing up the back of the church pretty much the whole time—whether singing or keeping a baby quiet, standing is easier than sitting.

A quiet Low Mass, although shorter, works out more difficult to stay inside for. A baby takes the resonant quiet space as an invitation to make a joyful noise. Take a teething ring and a pew and you have a good percussion backing for your vocals.

My earliest memories of attending Mass are of hanging upside down off the railing in front of our pew. The priest was a remote oddity—exploring the gymnastic possibilities of the seating was my main focus.

Though I can’t see any of my local churches taking the bold step of removing seats, the idea is reassuring. We are in an imperfect world, the culmination of many struggles and compromises, as long as we keep struggling in the right direction it should work out well in the end.

Opinions by blog authors do not necessarily represent the views of Corpus Christi Watershed.

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About Veronica Brandt

Veronica Brandt holds a Bachelor Degree in Electrical Engineering. She lives near Sydney, Australia, with her husband and six children.—(Read full biography).

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    My pastor asked me to write little columns for the bulletin each week. The article for 20 July 2025 has been posted, and it’s called: “What Luther Said…” Martin Luther (an ex-priest and apostate) was an infamous heretic whose ignorance of JESUS CHRIST was only exceeded by his filthy and disgusting vulgarity.
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    “Music List” • 15th in Ordinary Time (Year C)
    Some have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I prepared for the 15th Sunday in Ordinary Time (13 July 2025). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and propers for this Sunday are also provided at the the feasts website.
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    15th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C)
    This coming Sunday—13 July 2025—is the 15th Sunday in Ordinary Time (Year C). All the chants have been conveniently assembled and posted at the feasts website. The OFFERTORY, Ad Te Levávi, is particularly beautiful.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

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    Pope Pius XII Hymnal?
    Have you ever heard of the Pope Pius XII Hymnal? It’s a real book, published in the United States in 1959. Here’s a sample page so you can verify with your own eyes it existed.
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    “Hybrid” Chant Notation?
    Over the years, many have tried to ‘simplify’ plainsong notation. The O’Fallon Propers attempted to simplify the notation—but ended up making matters worse. Dr. Karl Weinmann tried to do the same in the time of Pope Saint Pius X by replacing each porrectus. You can examine a specimen from his edition and see whether you agree he complicated matters. In particular, look at what he did with éxsules fílii Hévae.
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    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
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“Latin has been the language of the Latin liturgy for 1,600 years. It is a sign and source of unity as well as a defense of doctrine, not because of the language so much, but because it is a language no longer subject to changes. There are so many beautiful texts which can never have the same effectiveness in translation. Lastly, Latin is bound to an extremely precious heritage of melody, Gregorian chant and polyphony.”

— Cardinal Antonelli (Secretary of the Conciliar Commission on the Liturgy)

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