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Hymn for St. Thomas More & St. John Fisher

Jeff Ostrowski · August 15, 2016

AM CURRENTLY INVOLVED with a hymn project, which occasionally entails heated discussions about hymn texts. A challenge we sometimes face is whether certain language is too archaic for modern use. Often there is no “correct answer” to these questions, but it cannot be denied that some words are not perceived in 2016 how they would have been 200 years ago.

Here’s a hymn by MSGR. RONALD KNOX for St. Thomas More and St. John Fisher:

    * *  PDF • Hymn for St. Thomas More & St. John Fisher

I’m not sure whether that hymn will make it—and deliberations over such matters will continue. But it’s still an interesting hymn, don’t you agree?

By the way, here’s an oil painting by William Frederick Yeames:

201 The Meeting Of Sir Thomas More w/ Daughter after Sentence Of Death


It is called “The meeting of Sir Thomas More with his daughter after his death sentence.”

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About Jeff Ostrowski

Jeff Ostrowski holds his B.M. in Music Theory from the University of Kansas (2004). He resides with his wife and children in Los Angeles.—(Read full biography).

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I’m still trying to decide how to visually present the “pure” Editio Vaticana scores, using what is (technically) the official rhythm of the Church. You can download my latest attempt, for this coming Sunday. Notice the “trochee trouble” as well as the old issue of neumes before the quilisma.

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This year’s upcoming Sacred Music Symposium will demonstrate several ways to sing the CREDO at Mass. This is because—for many parishes—to sing a full-length polyphonic CREDO by Victoria or Palestrina is out of the question. Therefore, we show options that are halfway between plainsong and polyphony. You can hear my choir rehearsing a section that sounds like harmonized plainsong.

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Using the shoddiest, sleaziest material we have for the purpose of glorifying God is not very sound theology or even very good common sense. […] (In general, when you see a diminished seventh chord in a hymn, run.) And these chords are usually used in bad hymns in precisely the same order in which they occur in “Sweet Adeline.”

— Paul Hume (1956)

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