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Views from the Choir Loft

A Different Offering

Andrew R. Motyka · July 30, 2014

OST OF US are at least passingly familiar with the practice of a choral offertory, of omitting an offertory hymn in favor of a “choir piece.” In parishes that have a tyranny of congregational singing, this can be the choir’s only time to exercise its ministry alone. Taking this practice to the next level and abandoning the congregational offertory altogether has, in my experience, been very effective.

In my experience, most parishes have some form of the “four-hymn sandwich.” Whether these are hymns in the traditional strophic sense, or other songs that have been plugged in to fill musical slots in the liturgy is irrelevant. There exist 4 main places for the congregation to sing, and darn it, they will sing. This has been the case in most parishes where I have served, as well.

Many times on this blog, we have discussed that singing at Mass and congregational participation not only extends beyond the 4-Hymn Sandwich, but should look quite different indeed. When everyone sings together the typical four hymns, plus the Mass ordinary, plus the dialogues (ideally!), that is quite a bit of singing. Maybe we need to get a chance to catch our collective breaths and pray. Maybe even listen.

It is important to recognize when in the liturgy the music is part of the action, accompanying the action, and when it IS the action. During the Gloria, for example, the music IS the action. During the processional, the introit is part of the action. Unless you are singing the proper (in which case you hardly need my advice), during the offertory, the music is accompanying the action. What is happening is a combination of housekeeping and preparatory prayers for the Liturgy of the Eucharist. I have always thought that insisting on a congregational song at this time feels a bit like “busy work.” We are being given something to do to keep us entertained while the other stuff happens up there. The music is hardly an engagement with the liturgical action.

In my experience, a choral offertory does well here. This is an opportunity for the choir to sing its more challenging repertoire without pushing aside congregational singing at other moments of the liturgy. But let’s be honest: how many of us have choirs at every single Mass on a weekend? No, you don’t. You have one choir Mass, maybe two if you have different groups, and that’s it. We’re right back to the musical wallpaper for the other Masses.

When I arrived here at the Cathedral in Indianapolis, they had an interesting and long-standing (read: at least 25-30 year) tradition of not having a congregational offertory. Either the choir sings, or the organ plays. I thought this an odd practice, but it just works. The break in song gives everyone a chance to catch their breaths and prepare themselves for the coming rites. I like it. Besides, you know that on any given Sunday, you can find about 2 hymns, maybe 3, that really fit well with the celebrated feast. That fourth one is almost always a stretch. So don’t do it. Play the organ or have the choir sing.

Bonus: during Lent, when the choir isn’t singing, I don’t use the organ for solo work, per the GIRM. This is a good time to introduce the oft-neglected Offertory Antiphons, starting with a simpler source like the Lalemont Gradual or the Simple English Propers. I have gotten a fantastic response from these.

If you sing the dialogues and the ordinary, as well as a hymn at the end and perhaps the beginning of Mass, that is plenty of singing for the average congregation. Not only will most people not miss it, but many will be relieved to not sing one more thing at the Offertory, especially if it’s just busy work.

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About Andrew R. Motyka

Andrew Motyka is the Archdiocesan Director of Liturgical Music and Cathedral Music for the Archdiocese of Indianapolis.—(Read full biography).

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President’s Corner

    “Music List” • 9 Nov. (Dedic. Lateran)
    Readers have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I’ve prepared for 9 November 2025, which is the Dedication of the Lateran Basilica. If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. As always, the Responsorial Psalm, Gospel Acclamation, and Mass Propers for this Sunday are conveniently stored at the sensational feasts website alongside the official texts in Latin.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    PDF Download • Offertory (9 Nov.)
    This year, the feast of 9 November replaces the Sunday. The OFFERTORY ANTIPHON (PDF file) for 9 November is exceedingly beautiful. The ‘Laterani’ mansion at Rome was the popes’ residence for a thousand years. The church there still is the cathedral church of Rome—“Mother and Head of all churches of the City and of the World,” says the inscription over the entrance. It is dedicated to Our Holy Savior, but has long been commonly known as “St. John Lateran” owing to its famous baptistery of St. John the Baptist. In this church, the pope’s own ‘cathedra’ (episcopal chair) stands in the apse.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Job Opening • $65,000 per year +
    A parish 15 minutes away from me is looking for a choir director and organist. The parish is filled with young families. When I began my career, I would have jumped at such an opportunity! Saint Patrick’s in Grand Haven has a job opening for a music director paying $65,000 per year including benefits (plus weddings & funerals). Notice the job description says: “our vision for sacred music is to move from singing at Mass to truly singing the Mass wherein … especially the propers, ordinaries, and dialogues are given their proper place.” I lived in Kansas for 15 years, Texas for 10 years, and Los Angeles for 10 years. Michigan is the closest place I know to heaven!
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    “Reminder” — Month of November (2025)
    On a daily basis, I speak to people who don’t realize we publish a free newsletter (although they’ve followed our blog for years). We have no endowment, no major donors, no savings, and refuse to run annoying ads. As a result, our mailing list is crucial to our survival. Signing up couldn’t be easier: simply scroll to the bottom of any blog article and enter your email address.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Gospel Options for 2 November (“All Souls”)
    We’ve been told some bishops are suppressing the TLM because of “unity.” But is unity truly found in the MISSALE RECENS? For instance, on All Souls (2 November), any of these Gospel readings may be chosen, for any reason (or for no reason at all). The same is true of the Propria Missæ and other readings—there are countless options in the ORDINARY FORM. In other words, no matter which OF parish you attend on 2 November, you’ll almost certainly hear different propers and readings, to say nothing of different ‘styles’ of music. Where is the “unity” in all this? Indeed, the Second Vatican Council solemnly declared: “Even in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not implicate the faith or the good of the whole community.”
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    “Our Father” • Musical Setting?
    Looking through a Roman Catholic Hymnal published in 1859 by Father Guido Maria Dreves (d. 1909), I stumbled upon this very beautiful tune (PDF file). I feel it would be absolutely perfect to set the “Our Father” in German to music. Thoughts?
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Random Quote

“We must say it plainly: the Roman rite as we knew it exists no more. It has gone. Some walls of the structure have fallen, others have been altered—we can look at it as a ruin or as the partial foundation of a new building. Think back, if you remember it, to the Latin sung High Mass with Gregorian chant. Compare it with the modern post-Vatican II Mass. It is not only the words, but also the tunes and even certain actions that are different. In fact it is a different liturgy of the Mass.”

— Fr. Joseph Gelineau (1978)

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