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“Battles” in the Church (Part 2 of 2)

Andrew Leung · June 18, 2015

CTL Battles in the Church 2 AST WEEK, I wrote a post about my observations and opinions on the Three “Battles” in the Church. Those three “battles” are tensions that already exist in the Catholic Church. They can be solved by dialogues and discussions. This week, I would like to write about two more “battles” that shouldn’t be fought. Just like the other three “battles”, these two tensions already exist. However, unlike the three “battles”, further debates on these two will divide the Church. That is why they shouldn’t be fought.

(1) Vetus Ordo Vs. Novus Ordo — I don’t know about you. But I have heard many times that people compare the two different Forms of the Mass in the Roman Rite. And when people compare the two, often they talk bad about one of the Forms. I do think that the two Forms can affect each other positively. The Ordinary Form is still pretty new and a lot of times it is not celebrated the way it should be. But as I said here, the Novus Ordo can be done well if it is celebrated according to the rubrics and the vision of the Council Fathers. If we continue to compare the two Forms negatively, saying one is better than the other, it will lead to division of the Church. On the other hand, positive comparison with an open mind can help us understand the Liturgy, the theology behind it and the history of the Mass.

(2) Traditional Vs. Charismatic — This tension happened due to misunderstanding of the terms. I have heard so many times that people compare the two and label others as “traditional” or “charismatic”. And when they do, it seems like one cannot fit into both categories. To be a Catholic is to be both. We are traditional, because we belong to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and we believe in Sacred Tradition; We are charismatic, because we all received the Holy Spirit in the Sacraments of Baptism and Confirmation. These two terms do not contradict with each other. We need to be faithful to the Liturgy and to have a good relationship with the Holy Spirit.

In conclusion, the first three “battles” from last week need to be solved through dialogues; the other two are unnecessary and we need to stop fighting them. Humility and prayers are the keys to solve these tensions.

“Battles” in the Church (Part 1 of 2)

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Andrew Leung currently serves the music director of Vox Antiqua, conductor of the Cecilian Singers, and music director at Our Lady of China Church.—(Read full biography).

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    “Music List” • 5th Sunday of Easter (Year C)
    Some have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I prepared for the 5th Sunday of Easter (18 May 2025). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. The Communion Antiphon was ‘restored’ the 1970 Missale Romanum (a.k.a. MISSALE RECENS) from an obscure martyr’s feast. Our choir is on break this Sunday, so the selections are relatively simple in nature.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Communion Chant (5th Sunday of Easter)
    This coming Sunday—18 May 2025—is the 5th Sunday of Easter, Year C (MISSALE RECENS). The COMMUNION ANTIPHON “Ego Sum Vitis Vera” assigned by the Church is rather interesting, because it comes from a rare martyr’s feast: viz. Saint Vitalis of Milan. It was never part of the EDITIO VATICANA, which is the still the Church’s official edition. As a result, the musical notation had to be printed in the Ordo Cantus Missae, which appeared in 1970.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Music List” • 4th Sunday of Easter (Year C)
    Some have expressed interest in perusing the ORDER OF MUSIC I prepared for the 4th Sunday of Easter (11 May 2025). If such a thing interests you, feel free to download it as a PDF file. I don’t know a more gorgeous ENTRANCE CHANT than the one given there: Misericórdia Dómini Plena Est Terra.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

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    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
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    Lately I have been paging through the 1974 Graduale Romanum (see p. 678 ff.) and have been fascinated by the funeral rites found therein, especially the simply-beautiful Psalmody that is appointed for all the different occasions before and after the funeral Mass: at the vigil/wake, at the house of the deceased, processing to the church, at the church, processing to the cemetery, and at the cemetery. Would that this “stational Psalmody” of the Novus Ordo funeral rites saw wider usage! If you or anyone you know have ever used it, please do let me know.
    —Daniel Tucker

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