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Views from the Choir Loft

Reverence: Feeling or Action?

Veronica Brandt · November 19, 2022

ON THURSDAY there was a funny case of secular media sympathising with Latin Mass goers which in turn provoked an attempt to take the wind out of their sails with a bold article commanding the reader to Stop saying the Latin Mass is ‘more reverent’.

Now, there are a whole lot of people who react badly to being told what they can and cannot say, so pretty soon the article was being reposted with many people boldly proclaiming the very thing the title forbade.

I read the article and watched through the little video at the end and came to the conclusion that the two sides are arguing from different premises. The word “reverence” means different things:

reverence, 1.
A feeling of profound awe and respect and often love. synonym: honor. 2. An act showing respect, especially a bow or curtsy.

The Jesuits at America Magazine used the word “reverent” to describe a feeling or emotion. Using that definition, it makes sense that comparing different liturgies by the feeling aroused in the individual is very subjective and prone to many confounding variables.

The fans of the Traditional Latin Mass, however, were using the word “reverent” to describe tangible, visible actions which are objectively more reverent. A chart of such actions has been compiled by Jacob Bauer and shared on Facebook by Dr Peter Kwasniewski. These include but are not limited to:

  • The faithful receiving kneeling and on the tongue.
  • The faithful receiving from the hands of a priest/deacon.
  • The minister of Communion making the sign of the cross with the host over the Communicant.
  • The priest keeping his thumb and forefinger joined from Consecration to ablutions.
  • The priest genuflecting before and after any handling of the Sacred Species.
  • The priest genuflecting before and after each consecration.
  • Laypeople forbidden from touching the Sacred Species.
  • Laypeople forbidden from touching the sacred vessels.
  • The priest not turning his back on the tabernacle for more than a passing moment.

All these are features of liturgical norms up in force up until about sixty years ago which have since become optional or even suppressed. All these are reverences according to the definition, “act showing respect”. We can definitely say that the Latin Mass has more reverences.

They are tangible, concrete, visible actions. They may produce feelings of reverence, which is good, but that’s not the point. It’s a way of praying with our bodies, employing our bodies to express the belief of the True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist.

Maybe we can agree that the Latin Mass has more external signs of reverence. Maybe that will clarify our position.

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About Veronica Brandt

Veronica Brandt holds a Bachelor Degree in Electrical Engineering. She lives near Sydney, Australia, with her husband and six children.—(Read full biography).

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President’s Corner

    How Well Does ICEL Know Latin?
    This year, the Feast of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June 2025) falls on a Sunday. It’s not necessary to be an eminent Latin scholar to be horrified by examples like this, which have been in place since 1970. For the last 55 years, anyone who’s attempted to correct such errors has been threatened with legal action. It is simply unbelievable that the (mandatory) texts of the Holy Mass began being sold for a profit in the 1970s. How much longer will this gruesome situation last?
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    Is the USCCB trolling us?
    I realize I’m going to come across as a “Negative Nancy” … but I can’t help myself. This kind of stuff is beyond ridiculous. There are already way too many options in the MISSALE RECENS. Adding more will simply confuse the faithful even more. We seriously need to band together and start creating a “REFORM OF THE REFORM” Missale Romanum so it will be ready when the time comes.
    —Jeff Ostrowski
    “Common” Responsorial Psalm?
    I try to avoid arguing about liturgical legislation (even with Catholic priests) because it seems like many folks hold certain views—and nothing will persuade them to believe differently. You can show them 100 church documents, but it matters not. They won’t budge. Sometimes I’m confronted by people who insist that “there’s no such thing” as a COMMON RESPONSORIAL PSALM. When that happens, I show them a copy of the official legislation in Latin. I have occasionally prevailed by means of this method.
    —Jeff Ostrowski

Quick Thoughts

    Antiphons Don’t Match?
    A reader wants to know why the Entrance and Communion antiphons in certain publications deviate from what’s prescribed by the GRADUALE ROMANUM published after Vatican II. Click here to read our answer. The short answer is: the Adalbert Propers were never intended to be sung. They were intended for private Masses only (or Masses without music). The “Graduale Parvum,” published by the John Henry Newman Institute of Liturgical Music in 2023, mostly uses the Adalbert Propers—but sometimes uses the GRADUALE text: e.g. Solemnity of Saints Peter and Paul (29 June).
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    When to Sit, Stand and Kneel like it’s 1962
    There are lots of different guides to postures for Mass, but I couldn’t find one which matched our local Latin Mass, so I made this one: sit-stand-kneel-crop
    —Veronica Brandt
    The Funeral Rites of the Graduale Romanum
    Lately I have been paging through the 1974 Graduale Romanum (see p. 678 ff.) and have been fascinated by the funeral rites found therein, especially the simply-beautiful Psalmody that is appointed for all the different occasions before and after the funeral Mass: at the vigil/wake, at the house of the deceased, processing to the church, at the church, processing to the cemetery, and at the cemetery. Would that this “stational Psalmody” of the Novus Ordo funeral rites saw wider usage! If you or anyone you know have ever used it, please do let me know.
    —Daniel Tucker

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